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		<title>Gotay and the goats</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A look at St. Louis Cardinals second base non-roster invitees over the last five seasons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A look at St. Louis Cardinals second base non-roster invitees over the last five seasons.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-6884" title="Ruben Gotay (AP/Gregory Bull)" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Gotay-car-ser-06-ap-200.jpg" alt="Ruben Gotay (AP/Gregory Bull)" />I have been thinking about the made-for-pre-spring camp excitement surrounding the assignment of uniform number 3 to St. Louis Cardinals non-roster invitee <strong>Ruben Gotay</strong>. There are those convinced the number means the infielder is considered a front-runner to make the opening day roster.</p>
<p>We don’t need to look back very far to find history littered with bodies with pasts that look a lot like Gotay’s – former major leaguer with ample minor league time, especially most recently.</p>
<p>This doesn’t mean I am pounding on Ruben, a Caribbean Series teammate of <strong>Yadier Molina</strong> with Team Puerto Rico in 2007, the latter who maybe not so coincidentally happens to wear number 4. I am just pointing out a well-established pattern. Recent results indicate former MLB second-base retreads auditioned in Cardinals spring camp just haven’t cut it no matter what number was on their back.</p>
<p>Following are the players tried in similar circumstances over the last five springs. Only one of them ever made it far enough to claim a regular season major league roster spot with the Cardinals at any time, let alone opening day.</p>
<p>That lone survivor was <strong>Joe Thurston</strong> last year and the only reason he made it was due to opportunity elsewhere in the infield &#8211; all the third basemen who managed to eliminate themselves from contention. Once there, Thurston remained, but didn’t produce consistently and wasn’t asked back for 2010.</p>
<p>Of the others, one was cut by the conclusion of camp, while the remaining three toiled in Memphis for at least part of the subsequent season, a most possible 2010 destination for Gotay. Even with him included, the youngest at 27, the group averages the ripe old age of 31.</p>
<p>One common thread is terrible spring training results at the plate, a collective .207 batting average. They weren’t so hot defensively, either. They averaged two errors each, despite the briefest of cameos by <strong>Dave Berg</strong> in 2006 and <strong>Wilton Guerrero</strong> the previous March.</p>
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<td style="width: 86pt;" width="115">Player</td>
<td style="width: 41pt;" width="55">Spring #</td>
<td style="width: 38pt;" width="50">Roster</td>
<td style="width: 23pt;" width="30">Age</td>
<td style="width: 32pt;" width="42">Errors</td>
<td style="width: 32pt;" width="42">BA</td>
<td style="width: 24pt;" width="32">ABs</td>
<td style="width: 53pt;" width="71">Disposition</td>
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<td style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">2010</td>
<td>Ruben Gotay</td>
<td>3</td>
<td>NRI</td>
<td>27</td>
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<td></td>
<td></td>
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<td>Joe Thurston</td>
<td>22</td>
<td>NRI</td>
<td>29</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>0.246</td>
<td>69</td>
<td>St. Louis</td>
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<td>D&#8217;Angelo Jimenez</td>
<td>28</td>
<td>NRI</td>
<td>30</td>
<td>3</td>
<td>0.237</td>
<td>38</td>
<td>Memphis</td>
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<td>Jolbert Cabrera</td>
<td>19</td>
<td>NRI</td>
<td>34</td>
<td>4</td>
<td>0.151</td>
<td>53</td>
<td>Memphis</td>
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<td>Dave Berg</td>
<td>19</td>
<td>NRI</td>
<td>35</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>0.000</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>Released</td>
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<td>Wilton Guerrero</td>
<td>19</td>
<td>NRI</td>
<td>30</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>0.125</td>
<td>8</td>
<td>Memphis</td>
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<td style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Average</td>
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<td>31</td>
<td>2</td>
<td>0.207</td>
<td>34</td>
<td></td>
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<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-6885" title="Junior Spivey (AP/Todd Anderson)" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Spivey-06-ap-200.jpg" alt="Junior Spivey (AP/Todd Anderson)" />In terms of uniform numbers, while none had a number above 28, neither were any of the failed combatants issued 3 like Gotay. That doesn’t mean there hasn’t been a recent number 3 working at second base in spring camp, however.</p>
<p>The group of NRIs does not include a pair of failed candidates in 2006. Believe it or not, coming into camp that spring, both <strong>Junior Spivey </strong>(pictured), wearing number 3, and <strong>Deivi Cruz</strong>, sporting number 35, were on the 40-man roster. That that didn’t last long and like the vast majority of the NRIs noted above, neither Spivey nor Cruz appeared in a regular-season game for St. Louis. Here is how they did in 2006 camp.</p>
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<td style="width: 41pt;" width="55">Spring #</td>
<td style="width: 38pt;" width="50">Roster</td>
<td style="width: 23pt;" width="30">Age</td>
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<td>Junior Spivey</td>
<td>3</td>
<td>40-man</td>
<td>31</td>
<td>5</td>
<td>0.147</td>
<td>68</td>
<td>Memphis</td>
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<td>Deivi Cruz</td>
<td>35</td>
<td>40-man</td>
<td>33</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>0.146</td>
<td>41</td>
<td>Released</td>
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<td style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Average</td>
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<td></td>
<td></td>
<td>32</td>
<td>3</td>
<td>0.147</td>
<td>55</td>
<td></td>
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<p>Of course as was evident in the Thurston case last spring, opportunity can pop up even when it is not expected. Someone else’s misfortune can open a door that previously looked to be closed.</p>
<p>Still, the future was far from bright for these infielders, even after leaving the Cardinals organization behind. Including Spivey and Cruz, of the earlier six, only two ever appeared in the major leagues again for any club following their brief stop in Cardinals camp. They are Jimenez (Washington, 2007) and Cabrera (Cincinnati, 2008).</p>
<p>Thurston is in the Braves camp this spring at least, though on a minor league deal of course, and Gotay still has his Cardinals bid in front of him. I don’t like the chances of either, though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Cardinals minor matters – April 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reactions to what others are saying about the St. Louis Cardinals.]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span></strong><a href="http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/D1E768A426FA493E8625758B0011627D?OpenDocument"><img class="alignright" title="Troy Glaus (AP photo)" src=" http://thecardinalnation.com/wp-content/uploads/ultimatebaseball/Glaus-ap-200.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="150" /></a><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"><a href="http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/D1E768A426FA493E8625758B0011627D?OpenDocument">Glaus out for a long time no matter what you call it</a></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">After the big summit meeting this morning that included the Cardinals, doctors and <strong>Troy Glaus</strong>, the “fresh approach” to treat the slow-to-heal muscle in his right shoulder was set.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Glaus is heading to Arizona to work with a physical therapist. The Cardinals announced the third baseman’s next medical check up would be scheduled around June 1. In case you missed it &#8211; that is two months from now. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Even if he would be ready then to pick up a bat and ball, most of June would be lost in rehabbing. Our original estimate of somewhere between June 1 and mid-season for Glaus’ return looks more and more accurate every day. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Glaus had begun to throw as well as hit from a tee but had to cease all baseball-related activities two weeks ago. Yet the Cardinals had recently been playing word games, insisting the recent problem was a “plateau” instead of a setback. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">What would you call it when a mid-April return turns into a “sometime after June 1” estimate? <span> </span>How about “disappointing”?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Glaus himself said early in camp that his goal was to play in Florida and be ready to start the season. How about mid-season, Troy?</span></p>
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<a href="http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x549587496/Cardinals-spring-cleaning-leaves-Knoedler-out-of-work">Knoedler upset</a></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Assigned to Memphis in the first cuts of the spring, catcher <strong>Justin Knoedler</strong> was upset when he learned of his release Tuesday morning by checking the posted minor league rosters and noticing his name was missing. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">The Cardinals must have had a mix-up as I know from personal experience that they do not release names to the media until after players have been contacted. I would imagine that also applies to posting rosters.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">It is a shame for Knoedler, but that isn’t business-as-usual for the organization.</span></p>
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<a href="http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2009/03/cardinals-ok-backing-colby-rasmus-into-a-corner/all-comments/#comments">&#8220;Cardinals Backing Colby Rasmus into a Corner&#8221;</a></span></h1>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">It is an interesting title, designed to grab reader attention, I guess. The whole focus of the <em>P-D</em> article is how <strong>Colby Rasmus</strong>, a centerfielder his entire career, is now being asked to play the corners as well. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">I am not sure of the news here, as it has been going on all spring. Surely some of Rasmus’ defensive bumps in Florida have been due to playing left and right, but he needs to be versatile enough to handle all three positions if he wants to be a major leaguer, IMHO.</span></p>
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<strong><a href="http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/apr/01/redbirds-exhibition-sales-going-slow/">Redbirds sales lack energy</a></strong></span></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">The Memphis paper appealed to local civic pride in asking residents to come out to games with the Cardinals on Friday night and Saturday afternoon. T</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">wo years ago,</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"> the last time the Cards played there at AutoZone Park, attendance was over 15,000. Current pace is about half that. </span></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Redbirds president <strong>Dave Chase</strong> implied the low level of activity over the winter by the MLB club is what is behind the slow sales, rather than the economy, as other local sports are still drawing well. </span></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">&#8220;This year it&#8217;s been so quiet. That same energy&#8217;s not there,&#8221; Chase told the <em>Commercial-Appeal</em>.</span></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">My take is that if there is no energy, then someone needs to create it. The Redbirds should have their best team in some time and are coming off a very good 2008 season.</span></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Over on Scout.com this morning, I <a href="http://stlcardinals.scout.com/2/852563.html">wrote</a> about the Friday pitching match up of <strong>Chris Carpenter </strong>and<strong> P.J. Walters</strong>. If that won’t generate local interest, someone should check their collective pulse.</span></p>
<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"><strong>Update:</strong> Carpenter has been scratched from Friday&#8217;s start due to a mild and previously-unknown calf injury that does not put his game four start in jeopardy. Interesting. Walters will still start on Friday, but for St. Louis instead, against a bullpen crew for Memphis. Saturday is <strong>Joel Pineiro</strong> versus <strong>Mitchell Boggs</strong>. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2009/03/armas-spivey-out.html"><br />
Spivey’s comeback over</a></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Second baseman <strong>Junior Spivey</strong>, attempting a comeback after apparently being out of baseball last year, was released by the New York Mets from their minor league camp on Tuesday. He played for Memphis in 2006.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">2008 Cardinals left-handed reliever <strong>Ron Villone</strong> was released by the Mets earlier in the week.</span></p>
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<strong><a href="http://www.palmbeachpost.com/marlins/content/sports/epaper/2009/03/31/a1c_leftyrighty_0401.html">Ludwick an anomaly</a></strong></span></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">I ran across an interesting article in the <em>Palm Beach Post</em> that says only 21 players who hit right-handed and throw left-handed have appeared in MLB over the last 40 years since baseball split into divisions. </span></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Two of them are active today and both are outfielders currently training in Jupiter, Florida &#8211; <strong>Cody Ross</strong> of the Florida Marlins and <strong>Ryan Ludwick</strong> of the Cardinals.</span></p>
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<a href="http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090331&amp;content_id=4094380&amp;vkey=news_stl&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=stl">Yadi hitting second</a> – not an April Fool’s joke</span></strong></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Tony La Russa</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"> told MLB.com that he might consider continuing to use <strong>Yadier Molina</strong> in the number two spot in his batting order during the regular season. Given Molina&#8217;s lack of foot speed, it seems a most odd choice to hit him behind leadoff man <strong>Skip Schumaker</strong> and in front of <strong>Albert Pujols.</strong></span></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Batting sixth or seventh much of last season, Molina ground into a team-leading 21 double plays in 2008 and has 68 in a career that began in 2004. </span></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">&#8220;It&#8217;s an issue,&#8221; La Russa said to MLB.com. &#8220;But everything&#8217;s an issue in front of Albert [Pujols]. If he moves him over to second and the base is open, then you need a fourth-place hitter [to protect Pujols].&#8221; </span></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">I have to admit that I don’t understand La Russa’s logic and hope he forgets the idea quickly. </span></p>
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“<a href="http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/round-two/round-two/2009/03/is-motte-the-man/">Is Motte the man?</a>”</span></strong></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">This is the question the <em>Post-Dispatch</em> posed to a group of their writers the other day. Is <strong>Jason Motte</strong> the one to be the Cardinals closer?</span></p>
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<p class="“MsoNormal”"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">One of the columnists actually said the following. Honest. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">“TLR could test him in the “Marmol Role” a few times while seeing if <strong>Ryan Franklin</strong> is more prepared this season to close. If Franklin gets it done, the veteran could stay there for a stretch.”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Raise your hand if you think Franklin’s preparation is the reason why he failed as closer in 2008.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Not a single one of the writers mentioned what I believe to be the most important factor behind La Russa not naming Motte. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">If I was Tony and <strong>Dave Duncan</strong>, I would want to see how the unproven Motte reacts to the inevitable blown save. How does he handle it on the mound, in the clubhouse and the next day?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">There is no stat line or radar gun that measures how a player deals with adversity.</span></p>
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With little unreported news of note on current St. Louis Cardinals, it seems a good time to sweep up some miscellaneous items from the last few days about ex-Cards still active across the game. </span></p>
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<a href="http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090318&amp;content_id=4012934&amp;vkey=news_sd&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=sd">Worrell wounded</a></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">San Diego</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"> reliever <strong>Mark Worrell</strong>, unhappy with the Cardinals over a lack of opportunity, received his with the Padres this spring. The sidearmer had pitched well enough that he was expected to make the team. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">That was before elbow soreness hit. Now he is shut down with this ominous comment from manager <strong>Bud Black</strong>, after talking with team doctors. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Black said, &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t look great.&#8221;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">No news yet on the second player to head to the Padres in the <strong>Khalil Greene</strong> trade, but whoever it is, I still like the Cardinals side of the deal.</span></p>
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<a href="http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090317&amp;content_id=4008444&amp;vkey=news_sf&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=sf">Perdomo still fighting among Giants</a></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Taken in the December Rule 5 Draft, <strong>Luis Perdomo</strong> is one of nine relievers vying for two spots in the San Francisco Giants bullpen. It he doesn’t make the team, he will passed through waivers and if unclaimed, will return to the Cardinals minor leagues.</span></p>
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<a href="http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20090316/ARTICLE/903161039/2050/SPORTS?Title=A-healthy-Isringhausen-could-give-Rays-a-little-relief">Izzy’s first outing with Rays</a></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Nobody is getting too excited in Tampa  Bay yet, but <strong>Jason Isringhausen</strong> made his first spring appearance the other day. Not dominating, nor should it have been expected with Izzy coming off elbow surgery. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Still, there is hope that Izzy can be part of the pen mix and given closer Troy Percival’s age and health risk, this could be a good place for the exiled Cards all-time saves leader to get his career back on track.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/chatter/2009/Mar/13/nats-sign-julian-tavarez/"><img class="alignright" title="Jennifer Lopez (AP/Ricardo Arduengo)" src=" http://thecardinalnation.com/wp-content/uploads/ultimatebaseball/j lo.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="150" /></a><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"><br />
<a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/chatter/2009/Mar/13/nats-sign-julian-tavarez/">Julian brutally honest</a> </span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">After turning down an earlier offer from Washington, former Cardinals reliever <strong>Julian Tavarez</strong> accepted this time – a non-guaranteed minor league deal with a spring camp invite. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Since leaving the Cardinals after the 2005 season, the 34-year-old right-hander has pitched (and departed from) Boston, Milwaukee and Atlanta. If he makes the cut, Washington will become his 11<sup>th</sup> MLB club.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Never known for taking things very seriously, here is what Tavarez said about joining the Nationals:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">&#8220;Why did I sign with the Nationals?&#8221; Tavarez told a group of reporters. &#8220;When you go to a club at [4 a.m.], and you&#8217;re just waiting, waiting, a 600-pounder looks like J. Lo. And to me this is Jennifer Lopez right here. It&#8217;s [4 a.m.]. Too much to drink. So, Nationals: Jennifer Lopez to me.&#8221;</span></p>
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&#8220;I would like to be a starter, but it&#8217;s like my father said: &#8216;You want Jennifer Lopez, but does she want you? No.&#8217; You just take whatever she is giving to you. So I just take whatever they give to me &#8230; They give to me as a long man, I take it as a long man. Set up man, I take it. Starter, I take it. I can do whatever.&#8221;</span></p></blockquote>
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<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/11/AR2009031102821.html">The Kipper is back!</a></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">I had recently been dogging the Toronto Blue Jays as the destination for old Cardinals to die. Perhaps that is now the Washington Nationals. <strong>Ray “Burger” King</strong> passed through there on his way out of the game and <strong>Ronnie Belliard</strong> and now Tavarez are there today.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">There is another recent addition – former Cardinals starter <strong>Kip Wells</strong>. The Nats’ brass are tantalized by his 90-93 mph fastball and movement on his slider. Right.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Since leaving St. Louis, where he was an awful 7-17 in 2007, Wells couldn’t stick with Colorado or Kansas City, either. He hasn’t had a winning season since 2003. Wells can earn $500,000 if he makes the team.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Good luck with that.</span></p>
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Maroth to minors, Clement doing ok</span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Speaking of Toronto, left-handed pitcher <strong>Mike Maroth</strong> was sent down to the minors by the Jays. No surprise there. <span class="v11">He surrendered five runs, four earned, and seven hits in 2 2/3 innings in his first start on Saturday.<span> </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="v11"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">One of the players that beat him out was another former Cardinal, <strong>Matt Clement</strong>. He’s still in camp, having allowed three runs in six innings. For the Jays, that is good, I guess. </span></span></p>
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<a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2009_03_18_tormlb_phimlb_1">Haerther hits the field as Rolen sidelined</a></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">In his first action of the spring, outfielder <strong>Cody Haerther</strong> went 2-for-2 and drove in two runs for the Jays on Wednesday. If the former Cardinal minor leaguer can ever put the injuries behind, he has a chance to eventually make it as a reserve outfielder. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">In response to a reader question, though he was taken in the Rule 5 Draft last December, Haerther does not have to be returned to the Cardinals when he is sent down. That is because he was on the Springfield roster and was taken in the minor league phase of Rule 5.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Former Cardinals third baseman <strong>Scott Rolen</strong> has been eased into spring action with just 13 at-bats so far. He had to leave Wednesday’s game due to a sore back that is not supposed to be serious. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">There were rumors that the Jays were hoping for a hot spring from Rolen to attract trade interest. With him being owed $22 million for this season and next, there aren’t going to be any takers.</span></p>
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<a href="http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/story/1092590.html">Sir Sid’s groundhog day</a></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">The Kansas City Royals signed pitcher <strong>Sidney Ponson</strong> to a minor league contract, with an invitation to spring training. </span></tt></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">They want to see if he “has anything left in the tank”. If that means ample food and drink, the answer is “yes”. If they mean the ability to pitch consistently well, the answer is “no way”.</span></tt></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Though I didn’t peg the team, the first part of my earlier prediction has come true. I figured Sir Sidney would pitch well enough in the World Baseball Classic for the Netherlands (Dutch Aruba, remember?) that he would be signed somewhere.</span></tt></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Step two will be to pitch well in a game or two. Step three is to revert to being himself. Step four is to be waived. Step five is to be re-signed by the Yankees, before a repeat of steps two through four.</span></tt></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">By the way, Ponson <a href="http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090316&amp;content_id=4000090&amp;vkey=news_bal&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=bal">finally settled</a> with the Orioles on his grievance based on being released in 2005 with a $10 million deal for 2006 in place. There were those alcohol-related problems…</span></p>
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<a href="http://baseballdeworld.com/2009/02/04/uni-president-lions-to-replace-tilson-brito-with-rico-washington/">Rico to China</a></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Last year’s <strong>Joe Thurston</strong>-come-from-nowhere to make the team feel-good story was career minor leaguer <strong>Rico Washington</strong>. He made the 2008 opening day roster due to <strong>Brendan Ryan</strong> starting on the disabled list and lasted less than a month in the bigs, but he did make it after a dozen years of trying.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Rico is on a different career trajectory now, having </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">signed with defending champion Uni-President Lions in the Chinese Professional Baseball League for 2009. </span></p>
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Pomeranz back on the mound</span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">The White Sox signed former Cardinals right-hander pitcher <strong>Stuart Pomeranz</strong>. It was a minor league deal, of course. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">The 24-year-old was the Cards’ second-round pick in 2003 and at one point, was a top-ten prospect in the organization. He never made Triple-A, though he did pitch in the Arizona Fall League in 2006. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Pomeranz’ shoulder was injured for most of 2007 and after being released last spring, he didn’t play the rest of the season as far as I can tell. I assumed he had retired.</span></p>
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Spivey-man sighting</span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Now, here is one that floored me. </span><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">The Mets signed second baseman <strong>Junior Spivey</strong> to a minor league contract. </span></tt></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">I don’t know what was more surprising – that Spivey is still playing or the fact that he was given a professional contract. After spending 2005 with the Nationals, he came to Cardinals camp in 2006 hoping to win the second base job, but spent the entire season in Memphis. That is a good thing. After all, I don't think I could have survived a whole season of Mike Shannon calling him "Spivey-man". </span></tt></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Junior played in indy ball in 2007 and also had a short Triple-A look-see with the Red Sox that season. Where he was last year, I have no idea. Maybe hanging out with the "Simo-man". </span></tt></p>
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Preston</span></strong></tt><tt><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"> is limping back</span></strong></tt></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Speaking of indy ball and retired guys I thought I would never see again, <strong>Preston Wilson</strong> signed with Newark Bears in the Atlantic League. (What the heck? They also signed <strong>Pete Rose Jr.</strong> and have <strong>Carl Everett</strong> on the team, too.)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Wilson</span></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">’s chronic knee problems must have improved enough to hobble out there. He last played in 2007 and managed just 64 at-bats for the Cardinals.</span></tt></p>
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(A tip of the cap to <a href="http://cardinalsbestnews.blogspot.com/">Cardinals Best News Links</a> for the Rico and Wilson news.) <span> </span></span></tt></p>
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As usual, Derrick Goold did a fine job over on his <a href="http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/bird-land/bird-land/2009/02/second-guesses-second-chances-for-cardinals/">Bird Land blog</a> reviewing the rapidly-spinning revolving door at second base for the Cardinals during the regular season in recent years. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Since I was working on a similar piece but was beat to the punch by Derrick, I am going to take an alternate angle on the subject. My focus is second basemen tried in spring training during the last half-dozen years who crashed and burned instead of making the major league club. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">I believe this is most topical, given the large quantity and unproven quality of the players competing for the newly-opened second base job.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">The public contenders include <strong><span>Brendan Ryan</span></strong><span>,<strong> Brian Barden</strong>,<strong> Joe Thurston</strong>,<strong> Jarrett Hoffpauir </strong></span>and <strong><span>Tyler Greene</span></strong>, not to mention the guy getting all the ink, outfielder <strong><span>Skip Schumaker</span></strong><span>,<strong> </strong></span>who will be the most-watched player in camp as he attempts to play second base for the very first time. As if there wasn’t enough pressure on Skip before, the Monday release of <strong>Adam Kennedy</strong> just turned up the burners substantially.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">I bring up the past here in an attempt to at least give pause to those who advocate the Cardinals bringing in a tired, out-of-work second baseman to compete with the younger players for the job. Recent results indicate over-30 retreads auditioned just haven’t cut it.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Following are six players tried over the last four springs, none of whom ever made it far enough to claim a spot on Goold’s long list of regular-season second basemen. Most all of these players were primarily second sackers, though all could call the position home. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">One was cut by the conclusion of camp, while most toiled in Memphis for at least part of the subsequent season. Again, their common thread other than terrible spring training results (collective .169 batting average) was that none of the 2005 through 2008 players listed below reached St. Louis during the regular season. </span></p>
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<col style="width: 32pt;" span="2" width="42"></col>
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<td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 40pt;" width="53" height="17"><strong>Spring</strong></td>
<td class="xl22" style="width: 86pt;" width="115"><strong>Player</strong></td>
<td class="xl22" style="width: 38pt;" width="50"><strong>Roster</strong></td>
<td class="xl22" style="width: 23pt;" width="30"><strong>Age</strong></td>
<td class="xl22" style="width: 32pt;" width="42"><strong>Errors</strong></td>
<td class="xl22" style="width: 32pt;" width="42"><strong>BA</strong></td>
<td class="xl22" style="width: 24pt;" width="32"><strong>ABs</strong></td>
<td class="xl22" style="width: 51pt;" width="68"><strong>Team ABs</strong></td>
<td class="xl22" style="width: 53pt;" width="71"><strong>Disposition</strong></td>
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<td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">2008</td>
<td class="xl22">D&#8217;Angelo Jimenez</td>
<td class="xl22">NRI</td>
<td class="xl22">30</td>
<td class="xl22">3</td>
<td class="xl22">0.237</td>
<td class="xl22">38</td>
<td class="xl22">38</td>
<td class="xl22">Memphis</td>
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<td class="xl22">Jolbert Cabrera</td>
<td class="xl22">NRI</td>
<td class="xl22">34</td>
<td class="xl22">4</td>
<td class="xl22">0.151</td>
<td class="xl22">53</td>
<td class="xl22">53</td>
<td class="xl22">Memphis</td>
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<td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">2006</td>
<td class="xl22">Junior Spivey</td>
<td class="xl22">40-man</td>
<td class="xl22">31</td>
<td class="xl22">5</td>
<td class="xl22">0.147</td>
<td class="xl22">68</td>
<td class="xl22">109</td>
<td class="xl22">Memphis</td>
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<td class="xl22">Deivi Cruz</td>
<td class="xl22">40-man</td>
<td class="xl22">33</td>
<td class="xl22">0</td>
<td class="xl22">0.146</td>
<td class="xl22">41</td>
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<td class="xl22">Released</td>
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<td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">2005</td>
<td class="xl22">Mike Bell</td>
<td class="xl22">NRI</td>
<td class="xl22">30</td>
<td class="xl22">0</td>
<td class="xl23">0.000</td>
<td class="xl22">8</td>
<td class="xl22">16</td>
<td class="xl22">Memphis</td>
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<td class="xl22">Wilton Guerrero</td>
<td class="xl22">NRI</td>
<td class="xl22">30</td>
<td class="xl22">0</td>
<td class="xl22">0.125</td>
<td class="xl22">8</td>
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<td class="xl22">Memphis</td>
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<td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">2004</td>
<td class="xl22">Bo Hart</td>
<td class="xl22">40-man</td>
<td class="xl22">27</td>
<td class="xl22">3</td>
<td class="xl22">0.206</td>
<td class="xl22">68</td>
<td class="xl22">68</td>
<td class="xl22">Memphis</td>
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<td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Average</td>
<td class="xl22"></td>
<td class="xl22"></td>
<td class="xl24">31</td>
<td class="xl22"></td>
<td class="xl22">0.169</td>
<td class="xl22"></td>
<td class="xl24">57</td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">In addition, I listed a seventh player, 2004 flameout <strong>Bodhi Hart</strong>. I will blame that on Goold. As he noted in one of those terrible flashbacks, that spring was a time when Hart was being encouraged to switch-hit. It was a last-straw attempt to recapture the 2003 Bo-Mania that had long since worn off. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">The reality had set in that Bo wasn’t able to handle the off-speed pitch and as such, wasn’t really major league material. Still, Cardinals fans used to rooting for scrappy, underdog second basemen (<strong>Stubby Clapp</strong>, anyone?) had snapped up number 31 jerseys like hotcakes during the magical summer (for Hart, at least) of 2003. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Though it was his best chance in 2004, Hart not only did not make the club that spring, in fact he actually never made an opening day Cardinals roster in his short career. That season, he was recalled from Memphis on April 11, but by the end of the month was optioned out, never to be seen again in the majors.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Because of that, I will point out that technically, Hart should not be on this list due to his MLB swan song, those final 13 major-league at-bats in April, 2004 before he drifted off into baseball obscurity. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img class="alignright" title="Junior Spivey (AP/Todd Anderson)" src=" http://thecardinalnation.com/wp-content/uploads/ultimatebaseball/Spivey 06 ap 200.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="150" /><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Still, Hart’s mention here makes sense to me in the context of observing the wasting of spring at-bats on players heading nowhere. Over the last five years, the Cardinals have burned up on the average 57 at-bats per spring on this bunch.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Here in 2009 with the especially large number of unproven players in the competition needing as many looks as possible, I hope we don’t witness the likes of another <strong>Junior Spivey</strong> (pictured) on the fields of Jupiter anytime soon. I also hope real prospects can see the bulk of the 2009 regular-season action in Memphis instead of more members of the over-30 gang soaking up time and space. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">If the spring second base experiments all fail, there will still be time and opportunity at the end of camp to take corrective action if necessary. Unless a true proven MLB second baseman is brought in to St. Louis in the interim, which seems unlikely at this point based on GM <strong>John Mozeliak</strong>’s current remarks, I say, “Let the kids play”.</span></p>
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