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Cardinals Slide in Oddsmakers’ Post-Season View

Some combination of uninspired play against losing clubs and slowed betting action over the last week has led the St. Louis Cardinals’ odds of winning the National League and World Series to increase, according to new odds released on Monday from bovada.lv.

St. Louis moved from 7/2 to 17/4 to capture the NL pennant and from 15/2 to 8/1 to take it all. They are the only one of the 10 post-season clubs to have longer World Series odds this week compared to last.

There has been no change in the last month in the pecking order across the NL, with the Dodgers the favorite, followed by Washington. St. Louis trails in third. The two wild cards share the longest odds.

Of the five AL clubs still in it, only Oakland has longer odds to win the league compared to last week, though the A’s World Series odds shortened.

AL Pennant 8/1/14 9/1/14 9/22/14 9/29/14 NL Pennant 8/1/14 9/1/14 9/22/14 9/29/14
Los Angeles Angels 11/2 5/2 9/4 2/1 Los Angeles Dodgers 7/4 2/1 2/1 2/1
Detroit Tigers 5/2 4/1 3/1 11/4 Washington Nationals 4/1 5/2 11/5 11/5
Baltimore Orioles 8/1 4/1 10/3 3/1 St. Louis Cardinals 5/1 5/1 7/2 17/4
Oakland A’s 9/5 7/2 11/2 6/1 San Francisco Giants 6/1 7/1 11/2 13/2
Kansas City Royals 25/1 7/1 8/1 7/1 Pittsburgh Pirates 14/1 14/1 13/2 13/2

World Series 8/1/14 9/1/14 9/22/14 9/29/14
Los Angeles Angels 10/1 5/1 5/1 5/1
Los Angeles Dodgers 5/1 11/2 11/2 5/1
Washington Nationals 10/1 6/1 11/2 11/2
Detroit Tigers 5/1 8/1 6/1 6/1
Baltimore Orioles 16/1 7/1 13/2 13/2
St. Louis Cardinals 11/1 12/1 15/2 8/1
Oakland Athletics 4/1 7/1 12/1 11/1
San Francisco Giants 12/1 16/1 12/1 12/1
Pittsburgh Pirates 28/1 33/1 14/1 14/1
Kansas City Royals 50/1 14/1 16/1 16/1

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31 Responses to “Cardinals Slide in Oddsmakers’ Post-Season View”

  1. blingboy says:

    The odds reflect the actions of those placing bets, with the objective being to set adds so that equal amounts are bet for and against. I figure gamblers are focused on offense much like those commenters on the Scout board who insist this is one of the worst teams to make the playoffs. It is only the offense that is bad. The pitching is awesome and the defense is good. The net result is a team that won the third most games in the National League and 5th (T) most in MLB.

  2. crdswmn says:

    Once again I am being screwed by MLB showing playoff games exclusively on MLBN. The outcry on Twitter is loud and angry but MLB hears nothing.

    No wonder playoff ratings keep going down. Less and less people are able to watch them.

    • Brian Walton says:

      Hypothetically overheard in MLB offices:

      MLBoss: We can build our network’s ratings and therefore charge more for advertising if we hold back some post-season games for ourselves.

      Worker bee: But x percent of the country does not get MLB Network. What about them?

      MLBoss: Then they will pressure their cable systems to ante up and add our channel. More money for us.

      Worker bee: But that can’t happen fast enough for people to see games this fall, can it?

      MLBoss: They can always listen on internet radio. Then we can charge ESPN more next year. We win either way. After all, it is not like they can go somewhere else. Mo-no-po-leeeeeee.

      • crdswmn says:

        Pressuring my cable system doesn’t work. Many have tried for many years, all have failed.

        I listen to KMOX, not ESPN. Or I can just read the box score the next day.

  3. JumboShrimp says:

    The Royals have been out of the playoffs for a long time. Their fans were highly ready to cheer the team on to a rollicking comeback win at home. Good times.
    Cards fans are relatively spoiled by the team’s recent successes. Around here, people bemoan there were not enough wins, rue the hitting or managing, or survey the betting odds. Not a lot of light spirited fun.

    Kershaw and the Dodgers loom like Mount Everest, nearly unsurmountable. LA is a big media market, there is a ton of hype. The Cards do not line up quite as well against lefties and we would see Kershaw twice in a five game series. The Dodgers double our payroll.

    Yet it is not impossible the Central Division had better teams this year than the West. The Pirates are good, the Brewers outperformed, the Reds have talent, the Cubs are up and coming. If the Cards were in the Western Division, they might have outpaced the Dodgers.

    Molina missed a couple of months; he could give us a lift. Wainwright and Lackey are ready to go. Perhaps Mad Mike’s brain will kick into gear and he will have a great series managing.

    • Brian Walton says:

      There isn’t any cheerleading in my Cardinals Division Series preview, but I don’t see the Dodgers as “nearly unsurmountable,” either.

    • crdswmn says:

      With Matheny managing, the same problems that existed during the regular season will exist in the playoffs. The key is whether the players are more or less able to overcome the deficits Matheny places on them by his inept managing.

      The Royals have the same problem with Ned Yost. They were able to overcome because it was a one game playoff. Series wins are a different animal.

      Nothing is insurmountable in baseball. I just don’t like the odds.

  4. blingboy says:

    The Dodgers are in the same Division as the two worst teams in MLB, the Rockies and D-backs, and they played them 19 times each, 38 total, and racked up 25 wins. Still, they ended the season with a measly 4 more wins than the Cards. How does that make them a mighty and fearsome opponent deserving of being a big favorite? I think we’ll kick their butt.

    • JumboShrimp says:

      Lefty Bumgarner dominated the Pirates, in Pittsburg. The Pirates have more hitting than the Cards, but were flattened. Kershaw in LA will not be easy. Greinke is very good as well. To win the series, we would do well to steal one of the first two games, then prevail at home for two games, so we do not have to see Kershaw twice.

      • JumboShrimp says:

        My proposed lineup for Game 1:
        Jay
        Grichuk
        Holliday
        Peralta
        Molina
        Carpenter
        Adams
        Wong

        • Bw52 says:

          That leaves Carpenter,Adams and Wong facing Media Darling Kershaw…………………Adams takes a collar,Carpenter collar,Wong collar.But you don`t have many options with Cards keeping 653 pitchers and few position backups for 5 game series.Let`s see nmow…Tony Cruz won`t likely see action.Bench could be Taveras,Bourjos,Kozma and Descalso. Why not Pierzynski who has plenty of Playoff experience and go with 11 pitchers?Just seems like Cards are starting out behind the 8-ball once again.

  5. JumboShrimp says:

    Kershaw is today’s Koufax. He can overpower mere mortal hitters.

  6. JumboShrimp says:

    Strong job by Lance Lynn to hold the Dodgers to two thru six.
    Its neat to see what Matt Carpenter can do after renewed with a few days of rest.
    If the Dodgers start a righty in Game 4, Oscar should start in RF over Grichuk.

    • Brian Walton says:

      Taveras should have started last night. I went on record saying that before the game on the TCN message board. Grichuk went on to go 0-for-4 with two strikeouts. Taveras went 1-for-1, against a LHP, and scored.

      • JumboShrimp says:

        I agree Oscar should have started yesterday, but its now spilt milk, so I looked forward. Mad Mike seems biased in favor of Grichuk.

        I went on record that they should have developed a lefty/right platoon with Scruggs/Adams, by playing Scruggs more during September. This platoon has more upside than Kozma/Wong, the one they did actively work to create. Wong can hit lefties so does not need a platoon-mate, while Adams has a harder time with southpaws (though he collected a useful single versus tiring Kershaw).

        • Bw52 says:

          I was fine with Grichuk starting.He has been hitting around .300 since his recall and he plays good defense.Agree about a RH option for 1B.That is something to think about for next season unless Adams is traded for a better balanced 1B option.

  7. blingboy says:

    blingboy says:
    October 1, 2014 at 7:33 pm
    The Dodgers are in the same Division as the two worst teams in MLB, the Rockies and D-backs, and they played them 19 times each, 38 total, and racked up 25 wins. Still, they ended the season with a measly 4 more wins than the Cards. How does that make them a mighty and fearsome opponent deserving of being a big favorite? I think we’ll kick their butt.

    A glorious victory. On to the NLCS!

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