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Final Cardinals trivia question to win 2011 World Series Game 6 discs

To celebrate the release of MLB Productions Films on iTunes, The Cardinal Nation Blog is giving away copies of St. Louis Cardinals Baseball’s Greatest Games: 2011 World Series, Game 6 DVD/Bluray Combo.

The new iTunes-based offerings

Over 100 titles from the Major League Baseball Productions Film & Video Archive are now live on iTunes, which already includes hundreds of classic games as well as podcasts and award-winning mobile apps from MLB Advanced Media, including At Bat, the top grossing sports app of all-time.

Along with MLB Bloopers and Prime 9: MLB Heroics, available programming includes The Best of the Home Run Derby and “Prime 9: All-Star Moments;” Official World Series Films dating back to 1947, including the 1969 and 1986 films; the first season of “This Week In Baseball,” which originally aired in 1977; a documentary offering a fresh perspective on Jackie Robinson’s life and career; recent productions including a comprehensive film chronicling every era of World Series play and documentaries created to celebrate notable anniversaries for the Mets, Astros and Red Sox; bloopers collections highlighting the funniest MLB moments; and many other titles.

Any of these films can now be downloaded from the iTunes store ( Prices range from $1.99 for individual episodes of “Prime 9” and “This Week in Baseball” to $19.99 for the Official 2012 World Series Film in HD.

The contest

The fifth and final winner of the 2011 World Series Game 6 discs will be the first to correctly answer the St. Louis Cardinals-related trivia question in the comments section below. (Only one entry per person per contest allowed. Previous winners are ineligible. US and Canada residents only, please.)

As St. Louis Cardinals fans know, the club has been struggling offensively during its current six-game losing streak. Most recently, in 20 innings at Pittsburgh on Tuesday, the club managed just one run, which scored on a ground out in the third inning of Game 1.

The Cardinals needed a second tally in extra innings to secure a win, but they did not get it. Extra inning runs is the subject of this question, provided by researcher Tom Orf.

Since 1960, which two players lead the Cardinals in total extra innings RBI?

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77 Responses to “Final Cardinals trivia question to win 2011 World Series Game 6 discs”

  1. Bw52 says:

    Ted Simmons and Lou Brock

  2. blingboy says:

    Well, we are really screwed with our only irreplaceable player on the DL.

    On the post-game MM looked like he just woke up from a nap and needed another one. When the subject of Yadi came up he looked like his dog just got ran over. I think he is completely lost right now. Not that the losing streak is his fault, he’s just lost.

    Its probably easy to be a hitting coach when guys are hot, but right now is when Mabry and Benjie earn their salary, or not. So far, not.

  3. blingboy says:

    Thought for the day.

    If the Dodgers can hire Brian Wilson we can hire Billy Wagner.

  4. kray66 says:

    Awful. Just awful. I feel like I’m in some kind of Twilight Zone episode where we wake up and realize the Cubs and Cardinals traded places.

    I don’t understand how we could go from awesome to crap so quickly. There wasn’t a gradual decline, we just went totally to crap.

  5. snakestl says:

    Pujols for the trivia

  6. bucknutjake says:

    Albert Pujols and Lou Brock

  7. Bw52 says:

    Wainwright not sharp.Cards score and Wainwright gives a run right back.Cards still not getting enough clutch hits and Freese still looks lost.

  8. Bw52 says:

    Lou Brock and Keith Hernandez

  9. Bw52 says:

    Can`t anybody get a clutch hit? Simply amazing.Marshmallow tough.

  10. Bw52 says:

    Right now this team flat out stinks.Still no clutch hitting.Too many hitters who look at good pitches and flail away at crap.This team will be lucky to win 81 games playing like this.LLooking like the 1964 Phillies and the 1962 Mets.

  11. JumboShrimp says:

    One team that did well, imo, at the trade deadline were the Tigers. They added an interesting SS, who has hit well for average, from Boston.

    In general, not a lot of talent moved. The Cubs were aggressive in moving out pricey vets. The White Sox succeeded in unloading Peavy. One good decision by Mo was NOT making a trade, just to make a trade. Other teams will gladly saddle you with monster contracts being paid yesterday’s heroes. Alexi Ramirez is overpaid, given his steep decline as a hitter. The White Sox would have to give us a lot of financial relief to be willing to gamble on him.

    Two tendencies give misgivings, however.

    One is the post-TLR/DD tendency to demote pitchers abruptly. One bad appearance and somebody is in Memphis. Everybody pitcher will give up runs some days. Its probably better to be more adult on the personnel trigger. Rzep and Salas give up runs in one game, the next day both are gone. That does not make a lot of sense. ML experience is still an asset. In future, rookie relievers will give up runs and not a lot has been accomplished.

    An injury to Molina is a problem, pure and simple. No team has another catcher that good sitting around in reserve, so any team with a star catcher will suffer from an injury to him. Its just the way it.

    The Cards need to slog on through 162 games. Plenty more to play. They can make the playoffs if reserves and rookies step up. It will not be easy, but it can be done.

  12. blingboy says:

    Bernie’s article kind of throws MM under the bus as to the Molina situation, and suggests that he thumbed his nose at Mo’s effort to preserve Yadi for the duration.

    “GM John Mozeliak added a third catcher (Rob Johnson) on July 9 to cover additional rest for Molina. But through Monday, Molina had caught 84 of the team’s 86 innings since the All-Star break, and the right knee swelled again.”

    It would be interesing to know if Mo is miffed about it.

    Another observation from the same article:

    “the Cardinals have been walking on a treacherous slope all season. They’ve needed a historically prominent batting average with runners in scoring position to inflate the runs total.

    We knew this couldn’t last, so we shouldn’t be surprised by the inevitable regression. ”

    What it boils down to, I think, is that either the 3 or 4 guys who have been putting up superhuman numbers will have to resume putting up superhuman numbers, or the guys who have underperformed all year need to turn it around. You just can’t count on going all year with half your lineup doing all the work.

    • Brian Walton says:

      I did not read the column, but the part about Molina you included here seems factual. I’ve had the same concerns, but didn’t have the time to look up the numbers. If Mo is upset at anyone, it should be his manager, IMO.

      • blingboy says:

        I agree.

        IIRC, Mo had less than glowing comments about MM’s handling of Boggs earlier.

        It would be interesting to get inside Mo’s head and find out how he views Mike’s handing of some of the young pitchers, Wacha, Martinez in particular. I don’t have any particular complaint, just curious.

        On the subject of MM. He’d probably be better off doing away with the ‘Miked Up’ post-game thing, if he could. He comes off as disinterested and flat.

  13. blingboy says:

    As to the contest question, I’m surprised nobody has guessed Schmalbert.

  14. blingboy says:

    There are 3 Cards with more than 200 xtra inning PAs 1960-present. Schmalbert is not one of them.

  15. Bw52 says:

    Any word on the Kelly Shoppach situation?

    • crdswmn says:

      Hopefully, if we’re lucky, he won’t accept the offer. Kelly Shoppach is the Ty Wigginton of catchers.

        • crdswmn says:

          His CAREER line is .224/.312/413. He hit .196/.293/.346 for the Mariners this year. That includes a whopping 36% strikeout rate, much worse than Wigginton, which I didn’t think was humanly possible, but there it is.

          His defense is OK, he is around Tony Cruz level as a catch and throw guy. I don’t know anything about his pitch calling skills.

          • Bw52 says:

            At least Shoppach has some power.Johnson and Cruz are worthless as power bats.I don`t see what people see with Tony Cruz……………….adequate backup at absolute best.Same with Rob Johnson.Shoppach threw out 37% (10 of 27) with Seattle this year.Cruz has thrown out 33% ( 3 of 9) and Johnson has no attempts against him this year in MLB His career line is 27 % runners thrown out.Career thrown out by Shoppach 30%.Cruz 33%.

            • crdswmn says:

              I heard Ty Wigginton had power too.

              I said Shoppach’s defense was around Cruz’s level. But you don’t really think Shoppach is intended to be the primary catcher while Molina is out do you? That’s absurd. Shoppach or any other catcher that is signed is just for insurance. And Cruz IS an adequate backup, which is what he was always intended to be. The pitchers like him, and he does his job.

              • Bw52 says:

                With Molina`s age and knee problems the Cards need to be thinking about do they feel comfortable starting Tony Cruz for 40 or so games a year?Knees just don`t repair themselves and the years of catching are wearing on Molina.Cards system doesn`t have any outstanding catching prospects .The AAA and AA guys are reserves at best.No star talent in the system at the catcher position.

      • Bw52 says:

        okay talent scout who would you like to see?

        • blingboy says:

          That guy we had at AAA earlier could hit at least, IIRC. That is a factor the way things are going. Can’t think of the name.

        • crdswmn says:

          I wanted Dioner Navarro, who is hitting .294/.370/.510 with the Cubs, and who has pop in his bat. But that didn’t materialize, probably because Theo saw an opportunity to take advantage of Molina’s injury.

          Miguel Olivo is available but he is no better than Shoppach except he strikes out less and has negligibly better catch and throw skills.

          So, my answer is nobody. For the time being I think we stick with what we have and save the money. Wait and see if something better becomes available off the waiver wire.

  16. Brian Walton says:

    The conversation here is going on as if you don’t believe the news from the team that Molina should not miss much time! It is almost like you have heard that before or something… 😉

    • Bw52 says:

      Well Brian it`s not like the medical staff have ever screwed up a diagnosis or a rehab timeframe?

    • crdswmn says:

      Well we know for sure he is going to be out at least two weeks. Beyond that I would not venture to prognosticate.

    • Brian Walton says:

      The way I see it is that if they truly believed Molina would be out just two weeks, why would they be looking to sign anyone, let alone trade for a catcher? The guys they have may seem good enough to fill in for a couple of weeks, but maybe not good enough to start for the next two months, let alone in October.

      • crdswmn says:

        Well, they didn’t trade for a catcher, at least in part, from what I have heard, because they wouldn’t give up anything of value. If they were that scared Molina would be out for long time, why didn’t they try harder? And offering for Kelly Shoppach proves nothing, because he is really awful.

        Are you suggesting that they are lying about there not being any structural damage to Molina’s knee? Because if there isn’t, there is no medical issue that would keep him out for months. For more than two weeks is possible, sure, if the inflammation is severe.

        • Brian Walton says:

          I am not accusing anyone of lying. On the other hand, I accept that messaging can be managed.

          • crdswmn says:

            Of course messaging is always managed, that’s how business is conducted. But Molina either has structural damage or he doesn’t. If he doesn’t, then being out the rest of the season or even more than a few weeks is pretty far fetched. Inflammation can be nasty and chronic, but treatable. I’ve lived for many years with a chronic inflammatory condition so I know what it can do. More time off is going to have to occur, so Mo is going to have to put his foot down, but unless Molina has more than just inflammation he is not down long term.

    • kray66 says:

      Yeah, we’ve heard that old song and dance before.

      I think the Cards looking into a catcher at the deadline could be for two reasons or a combo of the two: 1) The injury is worse than they are saying and Yadi’s gonna be out longer than two weeks 2) The team realizes Yadi can’t catch 90+% of the innings like he is long term and wants to get a better back-up in so he can sit more and the team not take as bad of a hit (if that’s possible). Why not get that back-up in now and start the training early?

  17. blingboy says:

    Yadi could likely play 1B even if his knee is not up to catching.

    It will be interesting to see if that factors in. Given the long term investment, it might end up being something Mo will want to factor in this winter as far as deploying Adams and Craig going forward, and whether to re-sign Beltran. Taveras’s eventual arrival would factor in.

    As far as relying on what we are hearing from the med staff. My hope is that the situation is not bungled to the point he ends up out next season. How long did it just take to figure out Gast’s condition?

    • Brian Walton says:

      I haven’t made it a habit to knock the medical staff like others, as I don’t have the background or the information to do that credibly. We only know what they decide to tell us, which does not always seem to add up.

  18. kray66 says:

    Where’s the conspiracy theory about insurance contracts and Yadi’s knee?

  19. birdbats says:

    Lou Brock and Ray Lankford?

    • Brian Walton says:

      Another good guess, but Lankford is sixth with 17 extra-innings RBI. I need the name of the player tied with Lou at number one to award the discs.

      Hoping someone out there lurking other than those who have answered already will pick up my most recent clue, left in the comments section of my losing streak post.

  20. CariocaCardinal says:

    Brock and McGee

  21. JumboShrimp says:

    Sometimes the Cards confuse themselves on medical issues. Examples have been Rolen and Matt Clement, when the team did not have a clear understanding of the issues.

    TLR exalted guys for overcoming pain. With better depth and better medical nowadays, this became an out of date outlook.

    There have been years when Chris Carpenter stories did not work out as planned. Raffy Furcal smoked Mo last fall by eluding a TJ operation in hopes of some new fangled alternative; that backfired.

    So with Molina, we hope he can come back with rest, but we dont know. After swelling subsides, sometimes they find out an underlying cause of it.

    Steve Bean is light years from the Majors, an long term project. Cruz and Johnson are fringy, but I like them for what they are, decent D, light but not horrible hitters. Shoppach has a lot more ML experience and is less fringy.

    • Brian Walton says:

      “Confuse themselves?” You must do messaging.. 😉

      I do agree with your Molina point that swelling might obscure a complete read on the damage. My guess is that it is not as binary as crdswmn suggests.

      • crdswmn says:

        I was not suggesting anything, I was merely commenting on the current known information. If it turns out there is structural damage, then that changes the situation entirely. Because fluid was removed (which will aid in reduction of swelling) and a cortisone shot administered, we may know more in a few days (assuming a follow up MRI occurs).

  22. Bw52 says:

    Correct me if I am wrong but didn`t Molina get a Cortisone shot and get fluid drained from his knee? IEvery example I know of is that usually fluid buildup and draining of the knee eventually that person has ended up getting surgery.Maybe rest and smarter use of Molina will enable him to last thru the season.Molina`s catching is going to beat his knee up even worse and I still think it unlikely he can heal completely with just rest.

    • crdswmn says:

      Fluid build up is quite common in cases of inflammation due to the immune response. It does not necessarily indicate the presence of structural damage.

      • Bw52 says:

        Let`s hope it is just swelling and nothing more.I wonder that this will be continuing issue and better handling of Molina from the manager and Molina acceptance of days off will enable the Cards to ride this out.

        • crdswmn says:

          I think there is no question that knee problems in catchers tend to be recurring. Better care by periodic rest will help limit the damage. Assuming it is a Grade 1 or Grade 2 sprain, which are lesser injuries and usually don’t require surgery, then rest, and anti inflammatory treatment should resolve the current problem. But, as we all know, age and constant wear on the knees can lead to recurring problems.

          I hope, as has been suggested, that swelling has not masked a more serious injury. We will know soon enough I imagine.

      • blingboy says:

        I’m guessing something is causing the inflammation, either a structural injury or some kind of chronic condition coming on due to wear and tear.

        • crdswmn says:

          He likely sprained the knee, causing the inflammation. Most sprains heal without issue, unless there is a tear in the ligament. If it was just stretched, rather than torn, rest and treatment with anti-inflammatories and some strengthening exercises should do the trick.

  23. Bw52 says:

    knee injuries are rough.Tore cartilage many years ago before arthoscopic surgery was around.It was cut and look and cut by Doc.Twisted knee several times over the years and almost 40 years after original surgery had a total knee replacement.Was not a fun deal.Remember how knee ballooned up like a cantaloupe then had it drained.RN had to drain it twice it was so full of dark yellow nasty fluid.2 Weeks later got a new knee with a 25 year warranty.

  24. Bw52 says:

    I don`t mean to be so negative about Molina injury .I just tend to think the worse case scenario when it comes to knee injuries.

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