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Cardinals organization roster matrix: 2012-2013 off-season

NOTE: This version of the roster matrix is no longer current. It reflects the changes from the end of the 2012 regular season to the start of 2013 spring training. It should now be considered a historical reference document. For the active roster matrix starting with 2013 spring training, click here.

With the 2012-2013 off-season now underway, it is time for another refresh of the St. Louis Cardinals system roster matrix. This version will reflect the changes made from the end of the 2012 regular season until 2013 spring training. The previous matrix reflects the rosters as they evolved from short-season ball through the conclusion of the 2012 season.

If you are new to the blog and not familiar with the Cardinals organization roster matrix, here is quick summary:

As the 2012 regular season ended, the St. Louis Cardinals had 294 players under contract from top to bottom, including a full 40-man roster. The matrix places each one at his end-of-season assigned level in the system as well as by position. It is kept updated daily or as transactions occur.

Nowhere else will you find this current and comprehensive single-page view of the entire Cardinals organization.

Don’t be concerned about the order of the players’ names within a team. It doesn’t signify anything.

The 25-man roster for St. Louis is not in place during the off-season. Pay more attention to the players on the 40-man roster that are called out in bold.

At the end are currently inactive and unassigned players.

Full team rosters and player profiles at The Cardinal Nation

Remember that to get detailed profile information on every single one of these 294 Cardinals players, simply check out their free player profiles freshly updated now at The Cardinal / You can see bios, photos, videos, articles, news items, links to current season and career stats and much more – everything you need to know about a player in one place.

Click on the following links to be taken to one of the nine team pages at The Cardinal Nation. You can also see rosters and player profiles back to 2004:

Full-season clubs
St. Louis Cardinals
Memphis Redbirds
Springfield Cardinals
Palm Beach Cardinals
Peoria Chiefs

Short-season clubs
State College Spikes
Johnson City Cardinals
Gulf Coast League Cardinals
Dominican Summer League Cardinals

Once on a team page, just click on a player’s name to be taken to his individual profile page for that year. For example, here is Shelby Miller’s 2012 Memphis profile.

Looking ahead and back

Now that you’ve found this page once, remember one of three ways to get back here. Bookmark the page, type “Roster Matrix” in the dark blue search box at the upper right or use the dropdown menu at the top of the page: “Players/Staff” > “Depth Charts/Roster Matrix”.

For details behind past rosters and transactions, check out the earlier versions of the Cardinals organization roster matrix as follows.

Link to previous matrices: Jan–March 2009, April 2009, May 2009, June 2009, July 2009-February 2010, Spring camp 2010, Opening season 2010, First half 2010, Short-season 2010, 2010-11 Off-season, 2011 spring training, 2011 regular season, 2011 short-season, 2011-2012 off-season, 2012 spring training, 2012 regular season, 2012 short season


10/9: New matrix. Organization total: 294 players.

10/9: 3 retired players removed: Spr OF Jake Shaffer, PB OF Aaron Luna, SC P Bob Revesz. New organization total: 291 players.

10/9: 19 players released. Mem: C Nick Derba, P Jess Todd; Spr: P Chase Reid; PB: P Ryan Copeland, IFs Packy Elkins, Jeremy Patton, OF Roberto Reyes; SC: Ps Matt Rein, Kevin Jacob, Dyllon Nuernberg, Jose Pasen, C Kolby Byrd, IF Garrett Wittels; JC Ps Cole Brand, Roberto Canache, Nick Gillung, 1B Michael Knox; GCL P Ramon Ulacio, OF Corderious Dodd. New organization total: 272 players.

10/30: Mem P Jorge Rondon onto 40-man roster. P Kyle McClellan off 60-day DL. StL Ps Kyle Lohse, Brian Fuentes; 1B Lance Berkman become free agents. New organization total: 269 players.

10/31: 11/12 minor league free agents. Mem: C Roberto Espinoza, IFs Jose Garcia, Eugenio Velez, Lance Zawadzki, OFs Cedric Hunter, Lou Montanez, Matt Young; Spr: C Kleininger Teran (previously removed from matrix), OFs Ray Kruml, Jamie Romak; PB C Luis De La Cruz, OF Raniel Rosario. New organization total: 258 players.

11/2: C’s Steven Hill, Bryan Anderson, RHR Adam Reifer outrighted to Memphis. Anderson becomes free agent. DSL OF Henry Alvarado signed. New organization total: 258 players.

11/13: RHR Kyle McClellan released. C Rob Johnson signed to Mem contract with MLB spring invite. OF Jimmy Parque acquired. New organization total: 259 players.

11/17: OF Justin Christian signed to Mem contract with MLB spring invite. New organization total: 260 players.

11/19: Mem RHS Brandon Dickson released to sign in Japan. New organization total: 259 players.

11/20: Four pitchers added to 40-man: Michael Blazek, Keith Butler, Eric Fornataro, Kevin Siegrist. Spr OF Jamie Romak re-signed. New organization total: 260 players.

11/21: DSL RHP Yeison Medina signed as free agent. New organization total: 261 players.

12/5: LHR Randy Choate agreed to major league contract. New organization total: 262 players.

12/6: IF Matt Cerda and LHS Jay Voss added in minor league Rule 5 Draft. C Steven Hill taken by Oakland. New organization total: 263 players.

12/10: PB RHS Todd McInnis retired. New organization total: 262 players.

12/12: StL 2B Skip Schumaker traded to LA Dodgers for AA SS Jake Lemmerman.

12/13: Dominican RHP Alex Reyes signed. New organization total: 263 players.

12/14: Free agent UT Ty Wigginton signed. QC RHR Ricky Martinez traded to Houston. PB RHR Drew Benes released. New organization total: 262 players.

12/19: C J.R. Towles signed to minors contract with MLB spring invite. New organization total: 263 players.

1/25: PB UT Alan Ahmady and Peo RHR Ethan Cole released. New organization total: 261 players.

1/29: FA IF Ronny Cedeno signs 1-yr MLB contract. Mem LHR Barret Browning designated for assignment. 16 MLB spring training NRIs announced. New organization total: 262 players.

2/1: DSL players released: Juan Fresa, Eduardo Celestino, Jose Pena, Alejandro Mejia, Junior Agustin. Signed Julio Mateo, Dionauris Pena. Garrett Wittels re-signed. New organization total: 260 players.

2/11: OF/1B Chad Huffman signed. New organization total: 261 players.

The St. Louis Cardinals Organization Roster Matrix (effective 2/11/13)

25-man (29) 40-man (40)
C Carpenter Boggs Molina Craig Descalso Furcal Freese Holliday
Ja Garcia (L) J Kelly T Cruz
Kozma M Carpenter Jay
Lynn Rosenthal

Wainwright Motte

Westbrook Rzepczynski (L)




S Miller

Choate (L)

Memphis (23)
Gast (L) (ST invite) Browning (L) (ST invite) R Johnson (ST invite) Peterson R Jackson Cerda Swauger
Additon (L) Rondon Towles (ST invite) Adams Christian (ST invite)
Lyons (L) (ST invite) Blazek Huffman
Voss (L) E Sanchez
Greenwood (L)
Gaub (L)
Freeman (L)
Springfield (29)
C Martinez (ST invite) Butler A Perez (ST invite) Scruggs Wong (ST invite) G Garcia (ST invite) Curtis Melker
Maness (ST invite) Hooker Tartamella Albitz O’Neill
Siegrist (L) Delgado Lemmerman Pham
Ri Castillo Wacha (ST invite) Taveras (ST invite)
McGregor Wright (L) Parque
Swagerty Fornataro Romak
Whiting K Thomas
Palm Beach (23)
Sherriff (L) T Miller Klein Jon Rodriguez S Rodriguez (ST invite) Gil Rahmatulla Edmondson
Corrigan Nazario (L) Stanley (ST invite) Pritchard Swinson
Hald (L) Miranda (L) Ramsey
Ferrara (L) Russell
Blair A Lucas
Kiekhefer (L)
Peoria (29)
Jenkins Renfro (L) J Castillo Bergin Lu Mateo M Williams Piscotty An Garcia
H Hernamdez (L) Llorens Walsh Melchionda Martini
Villanueva (L) Cornelius (L) D Medina
Gaviglio Barraclough V Hill
Polanco Stock Walton
Watson Wyatt Longmire
Harris Y Castillo Apelian
State College (30)
P P(2012 added) C 1B 2B SS 3B OF
Baker Cooney (L) Montero (ST invite) R DeLaCruz B Valera Mejia Wisdom Young
Melling (L) Cuda Keener Washington Wilson Caldwell S Ramos
Creath Helisek (L) Rasmus Stienstra R Williams
B Freeman (L) O’Shea (L) Lewis Vargas Popkins
Stoppelman (L)
C Thomas
Johnson City (30)
P P(2012 added) C 1B 2B SS 3B OF
S Lopez Sabatino (L) Ehrlich (ST invite) Schaffer Le Mateo C Valera C Kelly Jeffries
S Garcia Shaban Velazco Martin McElroy
Bautista Donofrio Lizcano Ro Castillo
DeLeon Petrick Deol
Aguilar Booden Tilson
Tuivailala Rauh
Gerdel Lee
J Lucas
Gulf Coast (27)
P P(2012 added) C 1B 2B SS 3B OF
Villegas Foody (L) Bean Almaraz L Perez Barbuena R Garcia Acevedo
DeLosSantos Machuca (L) J Gomez R Medina Argenal
F Flores Gallardo Wick Peoples-Walls Capellan
Perdomo Perry Wiley Bryant
Paredes Jones Y Gonzalez
DSL (41)
Salazar A DeLaCruz (L) L Cruz Rblys Reyes Pina Araujo
D Martinez Escudero Godoy E Alvarez Franco
J Perez I Brito (L) Ripoll E Sosa (2013) D Sanchez
D Perez (L) F Gonzalez J Lopez (2013) Torres
Silva (L) Baez D Pena (2013) Cerdas
Arias Vallejo Alvarado (2013)
Medrano (2013) Negrette (L) Luna (2013)
Y Medina (2013) J Mateo (2013) Bandes (2013)
A Reyes (2013) J Lara Sierra (2013)
Jor Rodriguez
R Santos
Changarotty (2013)

(DL): injured – on the disabled list
(I): injured and assigned to Extended Spring Training
(TI): temporary inactive list
(SL): suspended list
(RL): restricted list
(MIL): military list
(TO): tryout player not under contract
(FA): free agent signee
(xx): round 2012 drafted player was selected
(L) left-handed pitcher
bold: on the Cardinals’ 40-man roster
(#+#): for teams, the number of active players on the roster plus number of inactive/not under contract (DL+TI+SL+RL+MIL+TO) players

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62 Responses to “Cardinals organization roster matrix: 2012-2013 off-season”

  1. crdswmn says:

    I miss all the activity we used to have here. No one seems to want to talk anymore. I come here and there is never anybody here. The only place I can have a baseball conversation anymore is at VEB and I don’t like it there because their point of view makes me crazy, especially in the offseason. All they want to do is get rid of everybody over the age of 30 and fill the roster with 20 somethings. Yadi is the only one they are willing to keep and they would get rid of him if they had someone to replace him with.

    Welp, guess I better find something else to do somewhere.

    • Brian Walton says:

      I apologize for being so scarce. Post-season is busy plus my travel has been disrupted for the last week due to the hurricane. I just arrived in AZ today with a full suitcase of (dirty) winter clothes. Not a bad alternative to a flooded LGA.

      • crdswmn says:

        I realize that other people have jobs and lives that I don’t have, and have other sports interests that I don’t have, but it seems that participation in this blog has dwindled considerably since I joined in 2010. There have always been plenty of topics to talk about, just no one is doing it. Days have gone by sometimes when no one is posting. It’s frustrating for me because this blog and Twitter are my primary sources of baseball conversation. Twitter is full of politics now and very little baseball, and what sports talk there is is about football and basketball, which I have no interest in. I have been hanging out at VEB since the WS series was over, but the primary talk there has been who can they get rid of to get younger players. When the talk today became let’s trade Wainwright for prospects and let’s not re-sign him because he’s old and costly, I had to leave before I burst a blood vessel.

        So I have resorted to re-watching 2012 games on MLB.TV to get my baseball fix.

        • Kansasbirdman says:

          I don’t feel knowledgeable enough to post with authority on the finer aspects of the game.

          I use this site (and a few others) to educate meself.

          • crdswmn says:

            I bet you know more than you think you do. And I know you have opinions about things.

            I listened to Bernie Miklasz interview Mozeliak on the radio this morning. He said the club will be looking for left handed relief pitching and a right handed veteran bench bat. He also said if a back up shortstop option was available he would consider that as well, but he didn’t make it sound promising. Also said they were planning to make Kyle Lohse a qualifying offer (1yr/13.3M) to get the draft pick. I guess Mo has a pretty good idea Lohse won’t accept it. It didn’t sound like he was in any hurry to get Wainwright re-signed either, though he made the usual talk about wanting him back and trying hard to make it work.

            Sean Burnett and Jeremy Affeldt are possibilities for Loogy’s, though some experts think the Giants will re-sign Affeldt.

            That’s what I know today.

            • Brian Walton says:

              Here is hoping Mo and Boras have an understanding about Lohse.

            • Bw52 says:

              Not a whole lot out there from the left side
              Sean Burnett WH top choice but will want more cash.
              Affeldt-did a good job…….supposedly wants to stay in SF
              Tim Byrdk Mets
              Dana Eveland Balt-young and inconsistent
              Pat Misch
              Randy Choate

              • crdswmn says:

                Yeah not a good looking list. Affeldt is interesting, but doesn’t sound like he will leave SF. Sean Burnett just had elbow surgery so sort of iffy. Not into Byrdak, Misch or Choate, don’t know anything about Eveland.

                • Bw52 says:

                  Eveland 29 has both starter and bullpen experience.not great at either.
                  Found some more LHPS who are FA…
                  Mike Gonzalez……….Cards wanted him at one time a couple years back.
                  JP Howell from TB .he had a decent year
                  Alex Hinshaw SD-SF……………so-so
                  If i can find a list of AAA Free agent LHPs i will post it.
                  As for the ones mentioned Howell,Gonzalez and Eveland sound worth Cards checking out.

                  • crdswmn says:

                    I’m leaving for a while to have dinner with a friend but when I get back I am going to look up those guys and check them out.

                    • crdswmn says:

                      Gonzalez looks OK though his walk rate is a little high. Howell doesn’t interest me, no on Hinshaw and Eveland as well based on their numbers, which are not good.

    • blingboy says:

      I’ve been participating in the top 50 prospect list vote on the main site the last couple weeks. Been keeping my mind off the Cards until I get over being emotionally crushed and ticked off.

      Besides, unlike before, there aren’t any big dramas or conspiricy theories going on. Stuff will happen this winter though.

      • Kansasbirdman says:

        So Crdswmn, it doesn’t sound like from the interview you heard that Mo will go after a starting SS? That is depressing because this is Furcal’s last year and there appears to be at least a couple of good ones available (trade-Rangers) (FA- Drew). I didn’t see any mlb ready in the pipeline for 2013 or 2014. I like Brian’s suggestion of moving Furcal to 2nd and getting a starting SS. Then, by the end of next year Wong could be getting some starts if he is ready and could potentially replace Furcal at 2nd.

        • crdswmn says:

          There really isn’t a starting shortstop on the market worth getting. Stephen Drew really isn’t that good (he can’t hit and his defensive numbers are worse than Descalso’s) and Andrus is probably not available. Even if Andrus were a available it would be in a trade, and Mozeliak knows he would have to give up some of his young arms to get him, and he is not willing to do that.

  2. Bw52 says:

    Hang in there Crdswmn.The only thing i have seen Card-wise is Jorge Rondon RP getting added to the 40-man and Kyle McClellan also added.ZLast i read was that Cards where going to evaluate KMAC this month after seeing him throw.Since he is arbitration eligible again my bet is he gets dropped and re-signed for less.
    A couple of other baseball sites have made FA predictions……………….one site thinks Cards will sign Sean Burnett LHP for the bullpen.Another say Francisco Rodriquez…………………why would Cards add another Righty to the pen?Somebodys not thinking right.

    • crdswmn says:

      Don’t want KMAC back. They will have to lighten up the 40 man if they are going to make any additions. Reifer and Marte should go, maybe Anderson.

      • Bw52 says:

        Agree about Reifer,Marte..KMAC could get a NRI if he gets bumped from roster this winter and nobody picks him up.
        Bryan Anderson and Steven Hill both might be dropped from 40-man.
        What happens with Schumaker? Does he stay as OF depth or is it time to let him leave?

        • crdswmn says:

          Steven Hill was outrighted once before so they can’t outright him again without his permission or he can elect free agency.

          I don’t know about Schumaker. They may try to trade him if they can get some value for him or they may keep him on the bench for another year. He becomes a FA after 2013.

  3. CariocaCardinal says:

    Well crdswmn, we could always talk about Ankiel’s return to pitching.

    I’ve always said (even when he was adamant he’d never pitch again) that he’d be back to pitching when there was no longer a market for his bat. I actually thought it might be after he was out of baseball for a year or two but it seems either his competitive juices are stronger than I thought or his pocket book is emptier than I thought.

    • crdswmn says:

      I’m on my way out the door so I will talk about Ankiel later on.

      Just saw where the Brewers just outrighted Nyjer Morgan. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. 😉

    • crdswmn says:

      I am not an Ankiel fan, so I am bleh about him pitching. I can’t imagine he could be very effective after this long a period of time not pitching. Personally, I would prefer the Cardinals pass on Ankiel, and let him experiment on some other team.

      • CariocaCardinal says:

        Never was anything wrong with his arm. If his head’s on he could be awesome. he still has a 22 year old arm.

        • JumboShrimp says:

          Rick had an odd experience as an outfielder. He massacred AAA pitching one year, on a pace for 40+ HRs. Then Rick had a very promising first ML season, shortened by an injury, perhaps it was 2008, IIRC. Returning from the sports hernia in 2009, however, he was far less effective so the Cards let him depart thereafter. His hitting career was a bit like his pitching career, a brilliant meteor of fleeting duration.
          Ankiel makes a great human interest story and the Cards respect Rick’s perseverence through struggles.
          He also could be a super reliever, with a lot more arm than most loogies. Plus now over 30 years old, he should have the maturity to feel comfortable again as a pitcher, especially in the easier role of reliever.
          It would be great to recruit Ankiel and sign him for 2013. We would probably have to outbid the Reds, however, since Walt would love to have Rick.

  4. blingboy says:

    What does it mean that Matt Carp is supposed to work on 2B on his own this winter? If it were serious, wouldn’t they want him at the complex in Jupiter so he could work on it in a structured environment? Maybe the MLBPA doesn’t allow that.

    I think the idea is for him to be able to compete for it in ST.

    As to SS, there is chatter about Andrus and Drew (bleh). I can only see going after Andrus if Furcal is going to move to 2B.

    • crdswmn says:

      VEB is very high on Andrus and want him badly, but acknowledge that it would probably be too costly to get him. Further, I heard that the Rangers may want to keep him and move Kinsler to the OF so they can move him to 2B and put Profar at SS.

      As for Carpenter, Mozeliak said this morning that he will be working with his dad, who is a baseball coach, and possibly Oquendo as well to make the transition to 2B.

    • CariocaCardinal says:

      Considering that they didnt even ask shumaker to work on playing 2B in the off season before making the transition during Spring training this is already progress.

  5. JumboShrimp says:

    Every GM every winter has to make a few moves. Mo can be opportunistic and look for a good gamble. He is in a strong position and not desperate to make any deal. He can be selective and see what is out there.
    Consider loogies. We have Gast, Lyons, and Freeman at AAA. Three pretty decent lefty prospects at the AAA level, how times have changed. No need to sign has beens like J C Romero in hopes of squeeze a few innings out of him, as a stopgap fix. LHP depth can enable us to let LHP Browning go too, though he did a nice job in 2012 for a couple of weeks. Another team can pick Browning up, because he deserves more playing time at the ML level.

  6. blingboy says:

    I just realized that if Ankiel ends up in the Cards pen there is every possibility he would end up being used now and then as a defensive replacement due to some double switch or something. We could see him gun somebody out from the track. Oh baby.

    I need a cold shower.

  7. blingboy says:

    Some people think all our hitters think they are Mark McGwire up there. I don’t know. Next year will they be any different? Will a different hitting coach affect the approach?

  8. JumboShrimp says:

    There will need to be adjustments to the 40 man roster.

    We should remove Victor Marte, Dickson, Browning, and Edwin Sanchez.

    Cleto and Reifer might stay, because they have wonderful arm strength. Bryan Anderson and Hill present difficult decisions.

    A painful question is Schumacker. Skip has been a great team mater, but he does not offer much for 2013, since there are better choices at 2B and at backup OF. Mo once let go of Adam Kennedy despite having to eat a year of salary. The same thing could happen again.

    Another good guy is Kyle McClellan. GMs have to be tough and it may make sense to let McClellan go now and later offer him a split minor/ML contract with a good salary. Kyle is a ML calibre pitcher who will need innings to work his way back from from injury.

      • crdswmn says:

        They should have outrighted Marte too. I predicted Reifer and Anderson.

        Hill can elect free agency, I wonder if he will.

      • JumboShrimp says:

        The Cards are unlikely to be done, anymore than done when Rondon was elevated. Its hard to imagine Dickson, Browning, and Marte remaining. Sanchez has been messed up for a season and a half, so if the Cards retain him, they will reveal patient hope.
        Dropping Anderson and Hill frees room for Perez and/or recruiting a veteran for backup catcher, to shoulder workload from Yadier Molina, who wore down. Backup catcher is a roster slot the Cards might target for serious upgrading.

        Hill could collect some nice offers as a free agent. He might land with the Astros.

        • crdswmn says:

          Mozeliak spent over an hour talking with Bernie Miklasz on the radio about what he was looking for in the offseason. A back up catcher was never mentioned.

          • JumboShrimp says:

            Do you recall when Mo took you aside personally and assured you Albert would be back with the Cards for 2012 and then how hurt you were later?

            The lesson: don’t tumble for smooth-talkers like Mo.

            • crdswmn says:

              And here I though you were Mo’s BFF. That’s what you led everyone to believe anyway. 😉

              • JumboShrimp says:

                I am close to Mo. This is why I can whisper that backup catcher is on Mo’s winter shopping list. Tony Cruz is acceptable, but we can also be opportunistic and see who might be available for a good price.

                • crdswmn says:

                  Yes, I’m sure you are. That is why you were able to tell us with such accuracy who was going to be outrighted just moments before they were announced.

                  • JumboShrimp says:

                    As in chess, its useful to look moves ahead.

                    From the 09 draft, the Cards added Miller, Kelly, Jackson, Carpenter, Adams, Rosenthal during the season. Its unusual to have added six this far in advance, though it alleviates slot pressure in November.
                    Siegrist will likely be added. Fornataro seems possible. Audry Perez could supply a 3rd catcher. Sleeper candidates include LF Anthony Garcia and RHP Robert Stock. Taveras and Christian Martinez would of course need to be be added if eligible for the draft.

                    • JumboShrimp says:

                      I feel ok about my earlier roster comments.
                      We added a backup catcher competitor, as I anticipated.
                      The Cards may want to end up at 39 protected players and are now at 36, with rumors Dickson ill decamp. We could add 4 guys: Siegrist; Fornataro; Anthony Garcia because a very good hitter; Audry Perez for another catcher; or Butler.
                      We also have two more borderline guys on the roster, in Browning and Marte. But they can still be removed at the end of spring training.

    • crdswmn says:

      I hope the Cards non tender KMac and let him go.

      I wonder if Eduardo Sanchez will ever be the same again. As for Dickson and Browning, they would have to clear waivers. Browning probably would, I don’t know about Dickson.

      Schumaker is a question mark that we will just have to wait and see what they do with.

      • JumboShrimp says:

        The case for Skip is that he can provide depth, in case Descalso gets injured. Skip will also hinge on the number of prospects we feel obliged to protect. If Oscar is Rule 5 eligible, he will be added. LHP Siegrist should be added. We can keep dead wood on the 40 man roster, if there is no pressure to add prospects.

        • crdswmn says:

          There likely will be pick ups in the off season that will need to be added. Oscar is not Rule 5 eligible.

          • Nutlaw says:

            There’s still a reasonable chance that they’ll need room to add him to the major league roster at some point, however.

            • crdswmn says:

              Possibly, but not likely until later in the season.

              If Mozeliak picks up a LHR and a bench bat, and even a MIF, he is going to need the extra room on the 40 man, so adding people he doesn’t absolutely have to is hamstringing himself. I wouldn’t be surprised if more don’t come off.

              • Bw52 says:

                Good thought.IMHO Brandon Dickson,Victor Marte and Browning all will be dropped.Plus kmac. And i wouldn`t be surprised if Shane Robinson or Adron Chambers got dropped.

                • JumboShrimp says:

                  Jay is the primary CF. Robinson is the new So Taguchi and provides a right swinger to spell Jay against some LHPs. Chambers had a good season for Memphis, with a high on base percentage. He could be useful if Jay were to be injured during 2013. The trio of Jay, Robinson, and Chambers provides good depth for CF.

                  • Bw52 says:

                    They are decent depth.My point is Robinson or Chambers can be dropped and they could pass thru waivers and both stay with Stlouis.Robinson offers RH depth and Chambers main asset is speed ……………would other teams really jump at the chance to pick up either guy? I don`t see a big demand.

                    • JumboShrimp says:

                      Robinson is likely to be on the 2013 squad and Chambers could supply usable depth from AAA. We seem unlikely to remove either from the 40 man this fall, unless there were stronger Rule 5 eligible prospects.
                      Setting the 40 man roster in November is solely for the Rule 5 draft. After this draft is passed, we can make more roster adjustments to add a ML free agent or two. There are others who can be dropped from the 40 man later.

                    • crdswmn says:

                      Robinson was outrighted before, so he could elect FA and leave.

                    • crdswmn says:

                      Also, I think Robinson would be free agent eligible anyway if he was removed because he would have his 6 years in. Brian can correct me if I’m wrong.

                      Chambers wouldn’t be FA eligible.

                    • crdswmn says:

                      To take this even further, I think Dickson, Marte and Browning would all also be FA eligible if dropped. Reifer isn’t FA eligible. Hill doesn’t have 6 years but can elect FA because he was already outrighted once before.

                    • crdswmn says:

                      I forgot Anderson. He is also FA eligible

  9. JumboShrimp says:

    I like the way the Cards have cut ties to some pretty good minor leaguers like SS-2B Jose Garcia; catchers Luis de la Cruz. Kolby Byrd, Nick Derba; OF Raniel Rosario and Roberto Reyes; reliever Kevin Jacobs; Dyllon Nuernberg. Bryan Anderson and Steve Hill may leave, taking advantage of their freedom. The Cards must have decided a bunch of folks were unlikely to become ML candidates, so are carving out more playing time for others by pruning. Doing this during the fall can give released players opportunity to find a new organization by spring training. Luis de la Cruz is said to be good defensively and can hit for average, so he might find another employer.

  10. ArRedbird says:

    One of the three catchers on the Johnson City roster is Lizcano (not Vizcano).

  11. ArRedbird says:

    You are welcome, sir!
    You might check Hernandez at QC too 🙂

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