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Poll: When will Shelby Miller arrive in St. Louis?

Over on the main TheCardinalNation.com site, I have posted an in-depth subscriber article analyzing six of the numerous factors that could play into the timing of the promotion to the majors of the number one prospect of the St. Louis Cardinals, pitcher Shelby Miller.

Though the topic had been on my action list for some time, numerous inquiries from readers, both fans and fantasy baseball players alike, moved this up in priority.

For those who are interested in expressing your own opinion on the matter, check out the following poll. First consider when Miller makes his debut and how long he might remain. Then decide how you believe the Cardinals will initially deploy him.

When will Shelby Miller first arrive in St. Louis and what role will he play?

  • In a relief/spot starting role in September. (28%, 77 Votes)
  • Not until 2013 or after. (19%, 51 Votes)
  • July or August arrival as a spot starter, then back to the minors until September. (11%, 31 Votes)
  • July or August move into the rotation for the remainder of the season. (11%, 29 Votes)
  • First-half move into the rotation for the remainder of the season. (6%, 17 Votes)
  • July or August move into the bullpen for the remainder of the season. (5%, 15 Votes)
  • First-half arrival as a spot starter, then back to the minors until later in the season. (5%, 14 Votes)
  • First-half arrival as a reliever, then back to the minors until later in the season. (5%, 13 Votes)
  • July or August arrival as a reliever, then back to the minors until September. (4%, 11 Votes)
  • In the rotation in September. (4%, 11 Votes)
  • First-half move into the bullpen for the remainder of the season. (2%, 5 Votes)

Total Voters: 274

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24 Responses to “Poll: When will Shelby Miller arrive in St. Louis?”

  1. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    “Take mistakes yard…………. Take educated guesses to the gaps…………. Take good pitches where the pitcher hopes you won’t…………….. And have the wisdom to know the difference…………

    This sage advice was translated from latin by the famed player/monk……Ignazio Fabito… in the 14 century………………… its still good today RC…………its the key for a young struggling hitter…….

    Its the Wisdom part that everything rotates around………… Respect your opponent……. expect him to make good pitches…….swing to resolve the leverage he gains in selecting/hitting difficult locations….think singles……… if you guess that location, take your advantage and sting something into the gaps or doubles ally……………….. the time it takes you (on balance) to recognize a careless location or off speed devilry…………. is just the delay necessary to keep that mistake in play instead of instead of yanking it foul or popping it up……………. the ball isn’t going to go 425…..but it will leave most yards…………… that is a 325 hitter with 22+ jacks……..with plenty of doubles…………… and he will get paid………………………… and then there was Colby’s 2011………… just trying to see the strike zone………. hoping for an advantage to use the death to all kill someone in the upper decks….240ba… with bonus jacks making me some of that power money with 500 ab’s……………. he better start farming and hunting if he goes there again …………………………….

  2. blingboy says:

    One thing that’s not likely to happen is for all five projected starters to be healthy and effective all season. I’ll be surprised if they all make it to opening day.

    • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

      The introduction of Shelby won’t be wasted on baseball activities…………… they will roll him out at the perfect time…………. or when it keeps them from having to pay someone else……….. thats fits their profile….that hasn’t changed …………. That to me still represents next years FA season……… he’s good for that right now………. even a couple starts in September won’t happen unless they get the match ups and the low pressure scenario ………..

      • blingboy says:

        We do have some guys that could be cycled in, and probably out, of the rotation. Would make for a long, but possibly interesting, season. And then there is Roy, still out there looking for the pot of gold.

      • blingboy says:

        Might be worth remembering that Mac looked OK for a couple months. But I get the feeling nobody wants to go there again.

        • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

          The Kmac story was to encourage Roy while conditioning the public for his departure………..he is still 50/50 to make it to April. Hate to see all the hype surrounding Waino……………… Chris tried to put that on his back last year after Adam want down…………… WS team is mighty heavy……….. Chris didn’t get to 500 until Sept ……… Carp is the leader …… and is likely ready to do just that…….unless he learned a lesson…

  3. JumboShrimp says:

    Walt Jocketty signed RHP Brett Tomko. Wow. I could not stand Tomko as a Cardinal and its years later. He must really be bad by now. Good move by Uncle Walt to sign Tomko because he must be super cheap.

    • Nutlaw says:

      Good move for us as Cardinals fans that one of our team’s rivals continues to sign terrible former Cardinals. Not such a good move for Walt, of course. :)

      • JumboShrimp says:

        Tomko’s season with the Cards was the terrible year of 2003. Though Brett tied his career high for wins with 13, he also gave up 35 homers and 252 hits. He was horrendous. But Walt remembers his loyal service. It must be hard to watch hitters smash your offerings like that.

  4. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/matheny-steps-into-spotlight-in-cards-camp/article_d5799a3f-da00-5569-821c-9158944ccd0b.html

    Its already unfolding to fast to keep up with………to many prophecies to bother highlighting from the above article …..read the comments………….. Tony is with friends…..but will visit Jupiter of course………………. Brian Anderson has the inside track ……. thats play to win …… All of the forced investment validations as they fail, will be attributed to “the young coach finding his way” ……it will be ruthless……..Jesus leading the way………………

    • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

      Part of the fun in watching this is Mathey’s “rookie” status…………… at one moment he is spouting Mo’s rhetoric about the lost investment reclamation project that is B. Anderson……….he turns to the next challenge by suggesting that they were considering three catchers for some reason….but that he would like to carry only two…………………… as usual……….. 5 veteran starters……who do you think will inherit Anderson??????????????

      Also……..if you examine the opening day, with the home opener issues……and the off day complications………….. we could use a 4 man for the first 2 weeks………but who takes the solo marlins game??????? who throws that Springfield debacle …………. what will Mo decide I wonder?

      • Brian Walton says:

        Since you like predictions, mine is that one of the real starting five will pitch in Miami as that game counts. On the other hand, I bet Dickson or one of the other Triple-A starters will pitch for St. Louis in the Springfield exhibition.

      • CariocaCardinal says:

        I’ll bet Mo doesn’t decide – Mikey will.

      • blingboy says:

        I predict Carp for the Miami opener.

      • JumboShrimp says:

        Its Bryan Anderson, with a y.

        My prediction is Anderson makes the team. He has collected 1,000 at bats at AAA. This training has prepared him for stepping up to the majors. Matheny says Anderson is “durable” which sounds positive. Plus Anderson is not yet known to have his own hitting coach nor do we know that his family posts iffy stuff at this website. So he has a chance.

        So does Tyler Greene. He too has three years of prep time at Memphis. Both lads from the draft of 2005 should be ready to contribute in 2012.

        • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

          Everyone has a valid opinion Jumbo……………….its all good……………. there is a problem developing here though, as you will see……………….. Anderson has been a bust when viewed as an investment………… Tony and Dave only ragged on him because the starters had no confidence…….. Tony standing between BD/Mo and his rotation………….. the reimplementation of him as a “prospect” is solely a front office denial……….and anyone would tell you, bad for chemistry to the s40+ million dollar end of things…………………. no one really knows what will become of this………Mo named Descalso 2nd base in Nov to suggest to Furcal that Greene was going to be the shortstop……….didn’t take the price down did it…………… everything is just talk at this point……………… what happens if the rotation guys have to take it into their own hands………and they will……….. Matheny is going to be computerized right away carrying water for the Front office…………….. Anderson just isn’t a competent game caller …………………….if they team him with Westbrooke, just catching that sinker………..it may work…………if they try to tag him with Lohse……..that will go south in a hurry……change-up rhythms are tough stuff………….. its something to watch……….how come no mention of our Cub singing?

          • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

            Compromized…………

          • JumboShrimp says:

            Westie, things are often simpler than you imagine them to be.

            Anderson has not been a bust. He signed out of high school, diverted from Arizona State, IIRC. He rapidly ascended up the minor league ladder, since a good hitter for average. For the last 3 years, Anderson has been training at our finishing school, Memphis, improving on defense. Matheny likes the progress he has made.
            Something to bear in mind is Matheny was himself never a good hitter. And though he made himself into a good defensive catcher, this was by dedication and effort. It did not come easy for Matheny. Matheny can probably relate to Anderson’s experience and is probably well suited to be his manager and to advise him as to how to keep improving.

          • JumboShrimp says:

            Westie, until Furcal re-signed, Greene was first on the depth chart at SS. That is what Mo knew in November.
            After Albert left in December, this liberated budget for re-signing Furcal. Since then, Mo has been talking about Greene at 2B.
            However, if Furcal were to suffer an injury, Greene could instead get much playing time at SS, because number 2 on the SS depthchart.
            Pretty straightforward.

          • JumboShrimp says:

            “How come no mention of our Cub singing?” Who wants to listen to a singer from the Cubs?

            The intended question may be about catcher Koyrie Hill. Hill signed a Memphis contract and is not on our 40 man roster. Hill will be part of the spring training competition. If some of the other catchers were to be injured, Hill could reach St Louis this year. But if not, he can contribute at Memphis, where our AAA pitchers will appreciate Hill’s experience.

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