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Who is this former St. Louis Cardinal?

As the home from 1920 through 1958 to one of the St. Louis Cardinals not notable minor league teams, the Houston Buffaloes or Buffs, the Texas city has long-standing ties to the Birds on the Bat.

In support of the Larry Dierker SABR Chapter in Houston, help is needed to identify the ex-Cardinals player in this photo.

The chapter has embarked upon a major study that they are calling “Houston Baseball, The Early Years: 1861-1961.”  My friend Bill McCurdy sent along the snapshot in his role as principal investigator and editor in chief for their 18-member research and writing team.

As a SABR member myself, I support their efforts and hope one of the readers can solve this riddle.

Friday update

We had early guesses of Leo “The Lip” Durocher (1933-37 with St. Louis) and George “Showboat” Fisher (1930) but neither was correct. (It is really too bad that colorful nicknames have just about disappeared from baseball.)

Paula Homan, curator of the (still temporarily closed) Cardinals Museum identified the photo as from the 1925 season. The shoulder patch commemorated the 50-year anniversary of the National League. The Senior Circuit had been founded in 1875.

Paula also forwarded a panoramic photo of the 1925 team, but a positive id on the face was not possible.

St. Louis-area author Jerry Vickery came through with the definitive answer – Eddie Dyer.

It really made sense as I read Dyer’s SABR biography and learned he attended Rice in Houston before signing with the Cardinals in 1922. He continued to make Houston his home and once his playing career was over, even managed the Buffaloes for three seasons starting in 1939. Later, he succeeded Billy Southworth as the Cardinals skipper for what became the 1946 World Championship season. Dyer managed the Cards through 1950. (Links to Dyer’s managerial and playing records as well as another Cardinals headshot at Baseball-Reference.com)

I found this 1921 photo and excerpted the following text from the Rice University History Corner blog.

“Dyer’s career after he left Rice was really remarkable. He signed with the Cardinals in 1922 and pitched until he hurt his arm in 1927. He continued to play as an outfielder until 1933, but it was as a manager and baseball executive that he made his most important mark. Dyer was instrumental in helping Branch Rickey build baseball’s first real farm system and then managed the Cardinals to their 1946 World Series win over the Red Sox. He completed his Rice degree in 1936 and coached freshman football here (during baseball’s off-season) for several years. After retiring from baseball he had a very successful career as a businessman. He died in Houston in 1964 at the age of 64.”

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25 Responses to “Who is this former St. Louis Cardinal?”

  1. CariocaCardinal says:

    What is the patch on the left sleeve? Can that help narrow he time frame here?

    • Brian Walton says:

      Yes. I have learned the patch is from the 50th anniversary of the National League, worn in 1925. The Cardinals museum curator sent me a panoramic shot of the 1925 team (wearing the patches on their uniforms). I am in the process of trying to narrow down the choices and looking for other photos to triangulate.

      • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

        Isn’t it…………try and angulate………….

        Will the team really start over from scratch, as many national experts predict?

        Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/article_ee4bda9a-c4f4-11e0-8d69-001a4bcf6878.html#ixzz1Uq3cLUwY

        This is actually a very provocative piece by Gordo………….. its timing shows how intense the mission he’s been given is. The above statement sounds like the beginning of a girl scout campfire story ……….. The architecture of this small offering tells me what BD/Mo are about……………… and I would hazard a guess that this very attitude is the fuel for AP’s personal angst………… he knows he’s being herded and would like to say something …….. but that still isn’t in his best interest …………..

        If Lohse isn’t working fast……..releasing sooner…….he will get torched tonight……..Rockies are hungry and if his ideas is to be a Dave’s “good boy”………. he’s going to get his ass handed to him…………….. however, if we start spanking there pitching……anything is possible……. a lead allows us to be aggressive …….. pray for a scoreless first followed by 2 or 3 of our own………….

        • Brian Walton says:

          No offense to Gordon, who is writing to a different audience, but did you learn anything new from that article?

          • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

            Because if his “position” ……….and his willingness to see managements perspective……….. and the very complex affairs of their long range planning………. his message is very revealing………..

            I’m not suggesting that Gordo is an insider………… BD3 himself barely qualifies for that description ……
            but his message and response to stimulation by front office folks……….is very closely articulated by Mo’s posse…………

            BD went overboard with Rhodes……….. the Lynn situation appeared to effect this situation, but I think it was just more ” lucky timing” for Mo/BD……………………..Rhodes is very likely to be just another tether around Tony’s neck when the dust settles…………………..

            BD has won 80 million dollars from AP playing this game………….. that game is actually over now….it will just become more complex should AP go unconscious all the way to the world series…………..BD has convinced everyone that you can’t win if you pay AP all that money…………which is true…… for more reasons than the money………………….. the money he is spending on all the help…….is chump change…….especially since it springs from his 80 million dollar winnings………. Pujols is not a complex person……………. Lozano is a player……….. he knows where this is headed………….. he just has to get some real clothing for the King before the parade starts……………….. The real challenge for BD probably isn’t a challenge at all………. he knows exactly the number and the environment that send AP packing ………….. It not hard making money when you have a no lose scenario …….. he has know all along, the many permutations this season might take………… giving Tony whatever he wants…….along with the hemlock……..just makes him look like a compassionate sportsman………
            to the keen eye………. the fact that he is invalidating all the talent “valuations” that Mo and he made pre season………..doesn’t even seem to come up………… Tony wanted those players……….

            Salas never makes this team without the multiple injures to Talet and his buddy………….. He was always intended to be quality depth reinforcement so BD wouldn’t have to spend money when a wheel came off………… the question is………will he spend the 80 million on the team…………. no way……
            BD has Berkman….Furcal…….Jackson….. Carpenter………..all to be dealt with…or not… before AP/Lozano sees a fully developed market…………… BD is the captain at this time……… but he has to play well, least he lose a bunch of money………..unlikely………….

  2. Kansasbirdman says:

    This kinda thing is usually right up BB’s alley.

    I was traveling last night and couldn’t watch or listen tto the game, just get the box score and a little commentary on gametrax, they finally win. I saw all 4 marlins games but maybe I am bad luck watching them play the brewers.

  3. Brian Walton says:

    Friday lineup:

    1. Rafael Furcal (S) SS
    2. Jon Jay (L) CF
    3. Albert Pujols (R) 1B
    4. Matt Holliday (R) LF
    5. Lance Berkman (S) RF
    6. David Freese (R) 3B
    7. Yadier Molina (R) C
    8. Skip Schumaker (L) 2B
    9. Kyle Lohse (R) P

  4. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Joey Votto will continue to be a very good hitter, no matter his circumstance. “I don’t mean to sound arrogant, but I see the pitcher’s best,’’ he says. He’ll continue to grow and improve. He took a piece of advice this summer, from Milwaukee’s Prince Fielder.

    “I was frustrated I wasn’t hitting homers,’’ Votto recalls. “(Fielder) said, ‘Don’t worry about it. Homers aren’t hit. Homers are thrown to you.’ That changed the way I thought about hitting. It was like a let-go.’’

    http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20110811/COL03/308110016/Blame-Baseball-Votto-leaves?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|

  5. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Difficult to say what that was all about………………. he is mercilessly squeezed with Cargo…. and then Tulow has no low pitch that isn’t a strike…………I thing the ump knew he blew that strike out call…maybe that balanced it out………….pitch count elevates though……….

  6. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    That strike out was at least an on balance swing by AP…………….. Furcal looks lethargic…………

  7. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    That helped 28 through 2 innings………………. Lohse is spinning it well…..and not over using the change-up…………. His focus is changing a bit………we need runs………now……

  8. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Great play by Berkman…………tremendous play by Cargo…………. Molina……………………………..

  9. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    39 – 30 for Lohse…………………thats the only way to go………get them swinging and rely on your motion……..

  10. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Tough inning…………..when Lohse is hoping around after his release…….he’s over throwing……. he will pitch 6 tops……..unless they score some runs…………… Cargo and Helton hit the same pitch…….and it is a bad pitch…….. signs aren’t good at this time…..to many bail outs…………

  11. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    How the hell does Holiday miss that pitch………………. Albert is laughing down at first……..its not on him now………… he is feeling very relieved…………… Jay had another bad AB…………..Lohse will give up 4 before they pull him…………

  12. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Molina can’t even move the runner…………he’s back to his defensive catcher status………. Jay is useless…………………this is Lohse nemesis inning and Tony isn’t doing anything…….

  13. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    85 pitches through 6……. I’d like to see Tony make a move here…………. he has one more maybe…

  14. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Lohse quieted down with the lead…..no hoping around like a little kid after his release………but Tony told him……if you give up a base runner its over……….I agree completely…………. he has to coach that way………..

  15. LarryBird says:

    Nice win!

  16. Bw52 says:

    Great win.Lohse got thru 6 and didn`t give up 4.I have no doubt Albert is smiling now.

  17. CariocaCardinal says:

    So much for following Westie’s analysis – I thought from reading his comments we were getting clobbered.

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