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Cardinal Talk: KXnO FOX Sports Radio: Cubs series

Late Friday afternoon, I joined Ken Miller and Jim Brinson on KXnO FOX Sports Radio 1460 in Des Moines in our weekly series to discuss the 2011 St. Louis Cardinals, “Cardinal Talk.”

Fans in central Iowa can again catch Cardinals radio broadcasts on KXnO throughout the 2011 season as well as this Friday segment, sponsored by WCI Pools and Spas.

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98 Responses to “Cardinal Talk: KXnO FOX Sports Radio: Cubs series”

  1. JumboShrimp says:

    TLR would love to get Furcal in a uniform with Birds on the Bat.
    The Brewers may be bidders too, each team trying to keep Furcal away from the other.
    Ryan Theriot used to look good in Dodger blue. Maybe he saved his old uniforms.

    • JumboShrimp says:

      Trader Mo will have several trade discussions ongoing.
      We still like the closer of the Padres.
      Maybe Mo will sniff around for another SS, not just Furcal. It would be fun to get back Brendan Ryan.
      Expect another deal by tomorrow.
      Its like the Debt Ceiling debate in Washington. Deals go down to the wire. And we do not want to finish behind the Brewers.

      • JumboShrimp says:

        Furcal may try to get a team to renew his option for 2012 as a condition of accepting a trade. If he tries this, he is going to remain in blue, because no team in MLB will pick up his present $12MM option.
        Furcal needs to appreciate 2011 could be his last rodeo. A trade for him would be a lucky chance to start over and to audition for a new contract in 2012. This worked for Felipe Lopez, after he was released by the Nationals and signed by the Cards. Felipe used his success with the Cards as a springboard to score a next year $3.5MM deal from the Diamondbacks. Do not miss out, Rafael!

        • JumboShrimp says:

          Its important to motivate, Raffy. A trade to StL is a great chance to make some more money in 2012, you overpaid rascal. Come and get it.

          • JumboShrimp says:

            The Dodgers might be able to use a promising kid like Bryan Anderson, to help them out at catcher.

            Maybe the Dodgers would like to get back Ryan Theriot. He could partner up with Aaron Miles to give the boys in blue a dynamic middle infield duo for the home stretch of the West Division title chase.

  2. Brian Walton says:

    Saturday lineup: Theriot, 2b; Jay, cf; Pujols, 1b; Holliday, lf; Freese, 3b; Schumaker, rf; Molina, c; Descalso, ss; Lohse, rhp.

    Theriot’s first start at 2B.

  3. crdswmn says:

    Sources are saying the Cardinals are close to a deal for Furcal. I have mixed feelings about this. I like Descalso at SS right now and he has the advantage of being younger, healthier, and better offensively than Furcal is at the present time. I don’t dislike Furcal I just don’t see the upside right now for an aging, injury prone vet over Descalso. On the other hand, DD has had limited time at SS and Furcal has more experience there, so I am torn.

  4. Leebo says:

    Call it what you want, but the Cardinals are the worst baserunning/sign reading team in the history of major league baseball. Once again we lose a baserunner in front of a hit. Terrible baseball. You hear about the Cardinals defense but you don’t hear about this because it would reflect poorly on the manager.

  5. blingboy says:

    If we get Furcal, and he can play some, then once Craig is back, what do we need brick hands/lead feet Theriot for?

  6. blingboy says:

    I wonder if Albert leads the majors in advancing from first to second on a fly out.

  7. JumboShrimp says:

    Albert is the new Larry Walker.

  8. JumboShrimp says:

    The Cards have some good things happenning.
    Jackson pitches great during his first game, giving us 3 solid pitchers (Carp, Jackson, Westbrook).
    Today, Lohse has problems in the first. He has the finger injury. But he guts it out and gives us 5 innings.
    Its just the Cubs at home, but we are stomping them, even without Berkman.

    The Cards are headed into August/September, in a good situation. Pretty good rotation, a reinforced bullpen. Patterson helps, with a good arm and speed. Skip Schumaker has lifted his average and contributes a good arm from the OF too.
    Furcal could be a great addition. He has a great arm and is speedy. He used to be about as good as it gets for a ML SS. If he has had a crummy 2011 so far, that’s good, because it means we can get him in a trade.
    The Cards are building a strong roster and putting themselves in a position to overake Milwaukee.

  9. blingboy says:

    That was a nice job of mixing a few timely hits and some heads up baserunning with the Cubs bad pitching and fielding.

  10. Kansasbirdman says:

    we have been taking ad antage of opportunities, and only one of the errors came back to bite us. That is key

  11. JumboShrimp says:

    Games like this are fun. Theriot loves his new home at 2B, pounding out 4 hits against his old mates. Freese has 3 RBIs. Lynn overpowers them for 2 innings.

    If the Cubs do not enjoy today, what will tomorrow bring, with the Mighty Lance back in the lineup?

  12. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    The hard part for me…………it takes Furcal in the oven to bring Theriot around…………. thats sad……it takes Lohse a 5 run humiliation to come to his senses and start engaging hitters instead of playing peekaboo…………..This will be a miracle win for Lohse…….a rarity…… and now the team of hitters starts playing musical chairs with there futures…………. that gets a team going……. give me more….please

    there is no good news from Toronto………. Colby begins to attempt some of his secret hitting coaches points………… to slow for his hitting secret coach…….IMO….. don’t see any sign of a Jays intervention………… he may start suffering some team animosity if he doesn’t pull his head out……..

  13. crdswmn says:

    That game was a hoot.

    Now that the Rangers got Uehara and may drop out of the Heath Bell sweepstakes, the Padres may be stuck with him. I heard the Cardinals were the only other suitor and I doubt we go for him either unless he comes cheap. Greedy Padres may have shot themselves in the foot.

  14. blingboy says:

    Rolen, Edmonds, Drew, Reyes, Ryan, Rasmus. How many TLR casuaalties am I forgetting?.

    • Brian Walton says:

      crdswmn linked to a story yesterday that listed a bunch of them.

    • JumboShrimp says:

      Edmonds succumbed to age and injury. Just this spring, he wanted to come back and rejoin TLR, but he could not bounce back, so retired.

      Scott Rolen has stopped by and visited TLR and agreed to let bygones be bygones. They are buds again.

      The Cards landed Adam Wainwright for J D Drew. We sure won that trade.

      Anthony Reyes has not experienced success with the Indians, whereas Chris Perez has. In fairness to Reyes, he and TLR are not known to have had problems. TLR had him start Game 1 of the 06 Series.

      Rasmus was an unusual case, like Brian mentioned, recalling Keith Hernandez’s Dad. Back when Colby was at AAA, Tony Rasmus suggested trading Colby, because the Cards outfielders were too good. Then this year, his Dad said Jay was the better player. TLR may have said more favorable things about Colby than did his own Pop.

      Mo said in an interview he was concerned lest Colby become “damaged goods.” I guess he meant Colby becoming disheartened, playing behind Jay, getting all sorts of input from his Dad. Mo wanted to get some value out of trading the asset and get Colby to a new situation. This is probably best for everybody.

      • Brian Walton says:

        I heard Mo call him “a damaged asset”. Not surprising you didn’t include the manager’s critical comments in your list of possible reasons. After all, that is the action most impartial observers felt was the reason the trade was immediately necessary.

        • crdswmn says:

          This whole Tony/Tony drama has become beyond ridiculous. Now even Joe Buck has gotten in on the fun by comparing Colby and his father’s relationship to characters in a movie. Can we just play baseball please?

        • JumboShrimp says:

          The trade was necessary for the same reason Chris Perez pitches for Cleveland. We decided to trade future potential for short-term performance, as in 2009. We invested big bucks in Westbrook and Bergman, to support Pujols during what could be his last season. The Cards salary cost is 10 percent higher than ever before. There is a lot on the line. DeWitt refuses to come in second.
          Colby and the two Tonys seem like a side-show, in the overall big picture.

  15. LarryBird says:

    Rafael Furcal is going to be the pick-up that will get us to the next level imho. He will shore up our defense at shortstop that has been missing since Renteria left. Move Theriot to second and still have some chips left to get Heath Bell.

    • blingboy says:

      Two DLs this year. Hitting mendoza in the 37 games he’s appeared in. Hope the Dodgers are paying most of what’s left of his $12M. I’m sure Bill will tell Mo not to take a check. Maybe the holdup is how to get Furcal on a plane with a bale of cash.

  16. blingboy says:

    The Gould story has been updated to say the Furcal deal has been finalized.

    ST. LOUIS • The Cardinals and Los Angeles Dodgers have finalized a a deal that would will bring shortstop Rafael Furcal to St. Louis before Sunday’s trade deadline.

    Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/cardinal-beat/article_48c37338-ba5b-11e0-bfd5-001a4bcf6878.html#ixzz1TeEsEYw4

  17. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    This is an off handed remark………………. happy am I to break up this lousy team……… and this one move does it…………………. I recognize this business move………..this is BD reinvesting gains that he has made from his AP posture …………….. and a clever move it is………. his commitment to winning will now be unquestioned…………. and it will very much reinforce the FA offer that he will make to AP in November ………… It has been my conjecture that the pool of money is between 80 and 100 large that is at play……… Furcal probably has a buyout on his option…….his no trade status is now smoke……… one more short commitment covering his original posture of just putting out a bad team………… I believe AP’s resurgence has somewhat necessitated this……………. BD is going to look like an angel to the locals…………and all he did was cash Colby (his investment) in along with 3 or 4 million total on this deal………….the guy is very very good………………. it has been a win win scenario for him down this path………………………. and I could care less how it turns out for AP………..we have a lead off man at long last……….. we have a utility infielder in DD that we know is good……… Skip and Theriot will work 2nd……….plus outfield for skip……….. looks like Punto is out of a job I’m afraid………but thats down the road………………………………….. don’t forget how weak this team really was with the BP set up and the middle infield…………..they called it meaningful…..and no one even remembers that.

    • CariocaCardinal says:

      About 10% of that might have made sense if we were getting something other than the 2011 version of Furacal.

      • blingboy says:

        To be fair, he’s been less healthy all year than he’s been the last few weeks, and he’s looked better as I understand. My guess is he will be better than so far this year, but not his younger all-star version of course. I applaud his role in getting Theriot to the right side where he has a fair chance to look like a ballplayer.

      • Nutlaw says:

        Yeah, I’m with bb. I’m actually somewhat optimistic about the Furcal addition. I mean, they already traded Rasmus, so they needed to go all in this season and if Furcal can stay healthy, I think that he can help out the team quite a bit. They really needed a real shortstop.

        • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

          Furcal has been stuck in LA………..he has a big ego, and there is plenty to eat out on the planes of Missouri…………….. The demotion and clarification of our current players talents is the most important factor………….. if nothing more it does that……

          http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_eb8ffce2-a988-5bb2-8912-3b789f3aad56.html

          Joe Strauss goes low………….. with many insinuations…………. imagine his motivations……..imagine Aldrette telling him about finding Colby and RC in the video room….but that Joe can’t use him as the source………until now………. all these matters had a polarizing effect, but they obscure the real issues here………. we will look at them dispassionately in a few weeks………

          • Brian Walton says:

            Odd. Maybe I am misinterpreting, but if Colby did not speak until on his way out the second time and then only briefly, then how could his “first impulse was to tell his father” upon learning of the trade be known, let alone quoted directly? They could have asked him after the fact, but why would he recount his reaction by naming his father and with profanity included? Not smart, but maybe he did not care at that point. Still, it was a different impression than he left with FS Midwest on camera, which apparently occurred around that same time.

            RCW invading the team’s turf uninvited seems a flash point for their concern and based on this story, the coaching was more extensive than just throwing a few pitches in the cages. Clearly his interview designed to smooth things over was ineffective.

            Interesting that by the end and likely for some time prior, both Tonys wanted the same thing. It took awhile for Team Rasmus to get everyone else there, but that seemed the multi-year goal.

            • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

              Interesting that by the end and likely for some time prior, both Tonys wanted the same thing. It took awhile for Team Rasmus to get everyone else there, but that seemed the multi-year goal.

              There are many truths in your statement Brian………… And there is a very “evident” point of contention between camps that actual speaks of a truth that neither side would like to admit.

              For those that can…………be sure to listen to the commentators on the Toronto feed before and during Colby’s first AB today………………. RC is being allowed to distance himself it would appear…………

            • CariocaCardinal says:

              Possibly Strauss got the colby quote from another player in the locker room who overheard the conversation. Mayabe he got it from RC. :)

              Looks like RC snowed some people on this board when he said he wasn’t giving batting instruction to Colby.

              • Nutlaw says:

                All of my friends who are baseball fans, even the non-Cardinal fans, know who Tony Rasmus is without me telling them. Congrats for making yourself the center of attention again, RC! Hopefully Colby can be left to fight his own battles in Toronto.

                • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

                  ……………………………………………………. does that mean up both listened……. ????

                  • Nutlaw says:

                    I feel like I’m talking on a radio with poor reception. Did I miss some words in that sentence?

                    • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

                      No…….its a TV broadcast………

                      does that mean you both listened……………….??? You’re comments are uninformed Nut…….
                      Toronto didn’t just trade for a player it would appear………. they researched……..made plans….. like a real baseball team does…………….they see what the issues are………… the issues never had a bearing there is St. Louis……… a chew toy, no matter how polite the dogs………has its day……. and its function.

                    • blingboy says:

                      That’s what I figured you meant, Westy.

                      RC in the AL East environment should be fun. He’ll be throwing some bp in Yankee stadium, mark my words. Have to stay close enough to poke Colby with a stick when he nods off. I really wish all the best for them both.

                      And if the younger one moves up a little closer, post TLR, ……………………………………….

                    • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

                      I’m guessing he will be able to get some distance BB…… Jays see the problem….they will be offering solutions……….. I’m impressed already with their coaches………. someone has already got Colby’s attention, and I would say are working patiently………

                    • blingboy says:

                      “Blue Jays manager John Farrell said the team intends to speak with Rasmus’ father, Tony, about Colby’s hitting and how best to coach him.”

                      http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=capress-bba_blue_jays_rasmus-7636518

                    • Nutlaw says:

                      I’ve been listening/reading for years, thanks. As a Cardinals fan, I’m not at all happy with how that went down. Even as a Colby Rasmus fan, I’m not happy.

                      If Tony Rasmus wasn’t so hell-bent on getting Colby out of St. Louis, I’m fairly sure that both the Cardinals and Colby would be happy to be working with one another by now. Colby is a grown man and doesn’t need someone out there talking for him. The poor guy ignores the media, including all of the trouble his dad stirs up, then seems bewildered by the consequences.

                      RC makes public noise over the years about wanting Colby to leave the organization. The team and the fans take issue with Colby for not wanting to be there. Colby gets upset because he doesn’t understand why people are taking issue with him. Everyone gets mad at each other. The Cardinals make a bad trade to get rid of the frustration and Colby gets deported to Canada. Tony Rasmus, the baseball player who never made it to the majors, gets all sorts of people paying attention to him now. If can take some shots to insinuate that he’s a better coach than anyone up in St. Louis, well then, that certainly doesn’t hurt his career.

                      I don’t like it. I never liked it. I never will like it.

                    • blingboy says:

                      The first thing RC will want to talk to Farrell about is Colby hitting second ahead of Bautista. RC figures, jeesh, deja vu all over again.

                  • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

                    Given those coordinance, I could probably find you in a dense fog Nut………………. I think the relevance of knowing details of these situations are way over blown. I don’t see how they could empower us in any special way……………….. and quite to contrary, you seem to be enjoying some emotional focus/gratification in relationship to your stated believes, with there Jumbo inspired defense of Cardinal purity …………… I see that the truth here is really very simple……..but hey, thats an achievement I’m very proud of……………………. we are watching Toronto now to better understand our friend RC……. I have him watch my back any day………..

                    • Nutlaw says:

                      Insinuate that the other person doesn’t know what they’re talking about? Check.

                      Pretend to have secret knowledge, yet say nothing? Check.

                      Obscure the point by pretending a psychological analysis? Check.

                      That’s a day’s work right there, WC!

                      Look, I like RC, too, but it was a crummy thing to do. Colby’s reputation across the country at this point won’t help his career, particularly when it comes time for teams to consider whether he is worth dealing with in free agency.

  18. blingboy says:

    Ken Rosenthal

    Source: #Mariners, #Cardinals discussing Bedard. Ball in Cardinals’ court.

  19. Brian Walton says:

    For those interested in background on Alex Castellanos, the player heading to the Dodgers in the Furcal deal, check out the trade recap article on the main site.

  20. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    With the generous help of the Texas Rangers……….Colby gets a double………and a 40% standing ovation………………all he had to do was just try not to pull a pitch low and away….go figure.

  21. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Bell going to Texas…………

    • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

      Adams…….. not Bell……..

      • Nutlaw says:

        Adams was a much better pickup. I seriously hope that the Cards don’t trade the farm for a couple of months of Bell!

        • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

          We don’t need him……..unless they are trying to put Lynn back in the coral………

          Colby hit his second double………..two Rbi’s……….70% standing Ovation…….to a house of maybe 50 thousand to see the Alomar tribute……….. of course it was to dead center……..second in a row he didn’t try to pull……………go figure…………

          • Leebo says:

            Colby hit one double to right center the week before he was traded. I can’t remember the last hit he had that wasn’t between where that double went and the right field foul line. He had been dead pull for a long time.

        • Leebo says:

          I agree on both points. I think it is impossible to get Bell without over paying.

  22. Leebo says:

    Tonight should be interesting. Albert looks locked in and will have national stage tonight. Will he see anything to hit?

    I wonder what Matt Holliday thinks about Bernie calling out the Cubs for not retaliating against him.
    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/article_92660a34-5b5a-5098-933b-490f194b2fc0.html

    Will Dempster send a message tonight and take up the cause of his young shortstop? Castro complained that Holliday’s slide was “not clean”.

    Looks like fun tonight in St. Louis.

  23. Brian Walton says:

    Sunday lineup: Schumaker 2B, Jay CF, Pujols 1B, Holliday LF, Berkman RF, Freese 3B, Molina C, Descalso SS, Westbrook P.

    Berkman returns. No Furcal.

  24. Leebo says:

    Havn’t seen much discussion here about Holliday’s slide last night. I have to say that I agree with Espn’s Valentine and Hershhiser that it should have been called a double play. I don’t agree with Kruk that is was an intent to injure. It was a late slide with a leg whip/kick. His intention was simply to break up the double play but IMO the way he went about it was outside the rules.

  25. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Very careless managing by Tony………..if he does the right thing, and uses Furcal’s speed to make the Sac bunt complicated………this doesn’t happen……… or even a safety squeeze with Theriot……… thats just weak coaching………. he doesn’t believe/trust his players can run those plays………

  26. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Tony now begins to alienate his new BP………………..they likely don’t understand Tony’s use of Kmac…..

    • Kansasbirdman says:

      I don’t understand why two of our pitchers were left in too long. The few extra batters were the difference in the game

      • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

        Tony is having a hard time making changes himself KB…………………..Westbrooke was pitching very well…….and yet he wasn’t in a position to win the game……….. however, Westbrooke is still Westbrooke………..he was starting to leave the ball up…….risking the pitches that attack the top of the zone…………. he was good…….but this wasn’t Tony with his new arsenal……..this was Tony saving his BP for a rainy day…….Milwaukee Monday……..Same is true for Kmac……he had a bad outing last time out…….Tony is worried about his confidence in his new role………. so that becomes the priority……….

        All those are judgment calls…..what can you say…….. however, we rent a professional baseball play in Furcal……..this guy can run……this guy can bunt and make it tough on a defense……. that could possible be termed a judgment call or speculations having him swing away……. a bad one though……
        this is the issue………you have Molina at second…it takes a double to score him…..that makes it a very bad call………. putting the tying and winning runs in scoring position was paramont………. he chose to go fishing for hero’s………first Furcal…and then Theriot……. Tony at least has to squeeze the tying run in……or absolutely get a fly ball to tie that game………. once again he failed to take responsibility for the level of fundamental discipline his team displays…….. by not showing it……..

        This was absolutely one of his worst moves this season ……… Tony strength is in his willingness to encourage players………..he was decisive with Lohse Saturday……made a good decision………. Sunday he craps out in a very important game……….. his new players are chomping at the bit, and he is babysitting his “all we’ve got’s”………….. bad Tony……..

        DeWitt is in position at this point to offer 140-160 with an option to Pujols and not be criticized…….
        at this point I declare him the winner ………… its all in Tony?AP’s court at this point……… nice play by BD……….guy is good……………………………………………he does have a weakness though…..

  27. Kansasbirdman says:

    We have to find a way to staunch the bleeding the same inning it starts

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