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What about baseball’s realignment?

With rumors flying around about Major League Baseball’s plans for realignment, some ideas seem to hold more water than others.

Here are four of the elements.

One team from the National League, perhaps the Arizona Diamondbacks or Houston Astros, would move to the American League, creating two 15-team leagues.

The playoffs would expand to five teams from each league instead of the four today.

One version has the six divisions eliminated with the five teams with the best records in each league making the playoffs.

Another major question would be implementing the designated hitter in the former National League teams, since there would be constant interleague play with 15-team leagues.

Any recommendations to Commissioner Bud Selig and the owners will come from baseball’s special committee for on-field matters, which includes Cardinals manager Tony La Russa.

Did I miss any key elements or questions?

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107 Responses to “What about baseball’s realignment?”

  1. blingboy says:

    The main reason I’ve heard for realignment is to eliminate the 4 team division and 6 team division. So if you realign and then eliminate divisions, what’s the point. You could achive the same end by just eliminating the divisions. One league would have a 5 out of 14 in post, and the other 5 of 16.

    As I mentioned before. The best realignment would be to send the Brewers back. Right now.

    • Kansasbirdman says:

      The stros are rebuilding anyway, new ownership, and would have a ready rivalry with the rangers, plus the al west teams would have a convenient road series touring TX (I wonder if Berkman would think about returning then, he would. Most certainly be the DH, but I don’t think he liked that last year- I hope he stays and continues on his ‘comeback’ he seems like a positive influence on the team). The al west can go from TX through AZ and up the coast.

      I suppose the brewers were AL at the end of the 90s (man that seems like long ago). And twin cities and wisconsin always seem to enjoy the pigskin rivalry, since it appears milwaukee will be good for while I wouldn’t mind seeing them move out of the nl central :-)

  2. crdswmn says:

    The best thing is to stop trying to fix what ain’t broke. It started with the DH and it has been down hill ever since.

    • Kansasbirdman says:

      I second that.

      • friendmouse says:

        And a “third.” crdswmn, I was going to make the exact same comment…ain’t broke…but if they keep monkeying with things, it durned sure will be broke! Selig is behaving more like a politician…feels like he must pro-actively implement stuff to justify his job. Heaven forbid he be content to sit on his throne and observe and slap an occasional hand as needed to keep things clean. No…he (apparently) has the mindset that if you ain’t moving forward, you’re backin’ up.

        I suppose it would be naive to disregard the “money” angle, and that (according to some) certain owners (like BD?) are more interested in their legacy being one of fortune rather than of the love of the game. But, lest we forget, it IS their game…they own it; Congress endorses it; and, as long as we like their product, we pay for it. Perhaps they should learn the lesson from “New Coke.” It wasn’t broke; they tried to fix it anyway by ramming in down our (figurative and literal) throats; they lost marketshare and nearly screwed the pooch in the process. Now, it’s just a faint memory and collector’s item. And so it goes.

  3. blingboy says:

    LaRussa has been playing lots of guys out of position so as to maximize the bats in the lineup, so his comments about Pujols at third need to be understood in that context. Albert was not up to MLB calibre 3B 9 or 10 years ago, so he’s not going to be now. It was just a way of getting Brown a start without sitting Lance or Jon.

    We will have to see how Lohse does tonight. His success and how deep he goes will depend on how many plays don’t get made behind him and how many extra outs the Nats get. If its another defensive fiasco, we’ll see the pen doing middle relief batting practice again.

    • Kansasbirdman says:

      Rereading one of the old articles/comments from 1/7/2010 LaRussa dreams of activating MM, your comment that MM mostly hit hrs or whiffed got me thinking that AP has been in that same mode for much of this year (also dps). Think it can be attributed to hitting coach?

      • Kansasbirdman says:

        I’m not trying to lay all the blame, and I will concede some credit to manager and coaches for keeping the team competetive this year despite injuries, many hits have been clutch as well so its not a carbon copy of last year (though the past week has been kindof a funk in many areas)

    • Nutlaw says:

      Pujols entirely stopped playing 3B years ago more because Scott Rolen joined the team than because he wasn’t MLB caliber. Pujols has solid range at the position, even if he does make too many errors. With more repetition, I think that he would make a better third baseman than Theriot does a shortstop or Lance Berkman a right fielder. The lineup possibilities with him at third remain appealing.

      Maybe I’m a bit biased since I’ve been begging to see Pujols at 3B and McClellan in the starting rotation for years and I’m finally getting it! :D

  4. JumboShrimp says:

    If Sanchez has a serious shoulder problem, then DeWitt and Mo may have reason to be mad at TLR. Sanchez is the first product of the massive effort to build a pipeline from 16 year olds in Latin America to the big leagues. Sanchez is an upside talent. The Cards protected him on the way up, but now he has a shoulder question.
    And Salas had to do a 44 pitch save one day, which is absurd. Closers should have a 25 to 30 pitch maximum.
    Meanwhile TLR has been protecting reliever Ryan Franklin from eating innings, out of loyalty for what Ryan has done in the past.
    Franklin has made lots of money. He got paid for what he has done. There is no need for continued loyalty to a veteran, at a cost of burning up the arms of highly promising rookies.

    • JumboShrimp says:

      TLR has been known to say young players will let you know when they are ready for ML play, by excelling. The same may equally hold for veterans, whose play can indicate they are ready to hang up the cleats. In 2009, Chris Duncan’s slump suggested he could not play at a ML level, and now Chris is in a broadcast booth. Mo had to trade Chris to Boston to get him off the roster. We seem at about the same point now with Franklin and Tallet. Their results are not acceptable for a competitive team.

      • Nutlaw says:

        I’m with you, Jumbo. Every season, there seem to be a few older, washed up guys who are left to hang around the roster for far too long. Get them out. Get them out quickly.

        • JumboShrimp says:

          In 2010, as a Blue Jay, Tallet gave up a remarkable 20 dingers in just 77 innings, nearly 1 every 4 innings.
          The Cards rolled the dice on whether Tallet could improve in 2011, in a new league. He new has 4 HRs allowed in 11 innings. This is a worse HR rate than last year.
          Franklin has given up 7 HRs in 24 innings, about 1 every 3.5 innings.
          The Cards wanted to cut open Ottavino’s shoulder last summer. Fortunately, Ottavino said no thanks. He has bounced back in 2011 and is doing a nice job at Memphis. He can toss 96 mph for an inning or two. Ottavino ought to be back with the Cards, from the bullpen.

          • Bw52 says:

            Jumbo-all for Ottavino getting another chance.Tallet has shown very little.Even Brian Broderick might help.Why not give the younger guys a shot when the young guys have a upside.Franklin,Batista and Tallet should be sayanora IMO.Keep Trever Miller in the hope he can regain his form.There are no real LOOGY types at AAA right now.

            • JumboShrimp says:

              Bautista has been fine. He can throw a 94 mph sinker and is not being blasted over fences. He is a terrific pro for many years. He’s good for the pen, a vet who pulls his weight.
              TLR likes a second lefty. Give Valdes a chance, after getting rid of Tallet.
              In additon to Ottavino, like to see Marte get a shot. He got recruited by a Japanese team, since they too hunt the Dominican. It took him many years to get to the States. He’s ready.

  5. friendmouse says:

    Still not sure I understand all the site-etiquette, in regard to follow-up comments to previous posts; do you post them to the “old” original thread, or on the fresh new thread (like this one?).

    But, in response to the “invite” to share observations to last night’s faux baseball game with the pesky (g)nats: I cannot believe TLR intentionally subjected Franky to the merciless beating he suffered last night. Seriously? If so, then can there be any doubt that the level of desperation to jettison Franklin has reached an all-time high? Sure, I believe in the ol’ adage “You made your bed; now sleep in it,” but I doubt Franky knew, while trying to straighten the sheets, that there was a monster under that bed! At this point, were I Ryan Franklin, I’d be entertaining all offers/suggestions of a different venue at which to be employed.
    It also appears J-Jay is the only CardBird that had a decent night at the plate. His development and lack of offensive struggles- in spite of playing nearly daily- contribute to some interesting dynamics and possibilities to be mulled over by TLR and gang going forward.
    In my opinion, The “Albert the Third Baseman” experiment should be shelved. That gimmick, while creative and fun-for-awhile, is not the answer. TLR’s propensity to tinker and modify personnel and positions seems to currently be in its hey-day. I’m dizzy, and the players are likewise showing signs of vertigo. With Matt coming back tonite, perhaps TLR will ratchet down his shell game just a tad. We shall see…but I’m not going to hold my breath. Can we trust him to do what is best? I suppose one could counter, in Slick Willy-esque style…”It depends on what your definition of “is” is.”

    • Nutlaw says:

      If you’re replying directly to someone’s comment, you’ll want to reply to them. Otherwise, it’s probably easier to keep current conversation on the newest article/post, but you can do whatever you please. There’s no etiquette to cross here.

  6. Bw52 says:

    Just for the hell of it realignment

    NL EAST
    Mets Phillies Braves Marlins TB Rays

    NL CENTRAL
    Cards Cubs Reds Indians Royals

    NL WEST
    Giants Dodgers DBacks Oak A`s Marinners

    AL EAST
    Yankees Red Sux Blue Jays Orioles Nationals

    AL CENTRAL
    Twins Brewers White Sox Tigers Pirates

    AL WEST
    Angels Rangers Padres Rockies Astros

    As for the DH…………..either everybody or nobody.

    • friendmouse says:

      B-52, are you a trouble-maker? The ONLY way to standardize on DH would be to forever banish it into oblivion. But if we’re going to mix-n-match formerly NL and AL teams all around, and we’re going to standardize on NO DH, then why even keep the “NL/AL” designation at all?? “Tradition” I suppose, and to have one of each in the WS? But tradition suffers when you put Pirates in AL and Indians in NL. Since we’re going to fix what ain’t broke real good, then why not have :

      NE Division:
      Mets, Phillies, Yanks, Bosox, BlueJays

      SE Division:
      Orioles, Nats, TB Rays, Marlins, Braves

      Great Lakes
      Detroit, Cublets, Chisox, Cleveland, Brewers

      Midcontinent Division:
      CardBirds, Twins, Reds, Royals, Pirates

      West Division:
      Rockies, D-Backs, Mariners, Rangers, Astros

      California Division:
      Padres, Dodgers, Giants, A’s, Angels

      That should mess things up just about right.

      • Bw52 says:

        FM-speaking for myself i would rather keep the DH instead of seeing some pitchers flail away like a rag in the wind.Tradition is fine unless your tradition is losing like the Royals or Pirates.Baseball will have to do something to revive interest in the younger generation.Many people think baseball is a boring slow game and that is not just young people.Too many other things competing for your entertainment dollars to lose a audience.If you lose offense you lose audience IMO.Baseball has to appeal to the younger people and keep them interested for life.There is a lot more things available for people to do nowdays than there was in the past.Do kids go get the newspaper and hurry to read the boxscores like my generation did? Do they sit up trying to get the ballgame on the radio?Do you ever see kids playing ball in a park or field?
        Baseball has to gain a broader appeal somehow to stay healthy longterm IMHO.

        • friendmouse says:

          Yeah, you’re right…if we’re going to screw this thing up, we might as well go all the way and standardize with using the DH. If appealing to the immature masses is an objective, then we also need to incorporate more technology with digital laser gismos and all that. Instant replay and a standardized, computerized, laser-guided strike zone should quickly be adopted. The baseball can be implanted with sensors allowing all kinds of wizardry, like not only accurately giving the velocity, but the spin-rate, the spin direction, the degrees of drop / cut, velocity off the bat, and subsequent spin, ft-lbs. of force applied by bat, velocity as it clears the fence, altitude of pop-ups, whether or not the “bad hop” to the shortstop was really a bad hop, and if it was, how bad was it, etc., etc. Heck, we can get this game well into the next century with all these possibilities. Perhaps in a few years, with advancements in technology, folks in the stands (and maybe even at home) can, with their smartphones, make pitch selections / recommendations, put on / take off hit-and-runs, etc. That ought to get these little gremlins off their Wii’s and X-Boxes!!
          Or maybe not.
          Play Ball!!

          • crdswmn says:

            The DH is a big reason why baseball is thought to be a slow boring game. Have you ever compared the avg game length of an AL game to an NL game? Watching the AL is like watching paint dry. The game has become slow and boring BECAUSE OF the unnecessary tinkering over the last 40 or so years.

            • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

              this has very little to do with baseball CRD……………….. this has to do with the complex financial agreements surrounding pitchers contracts and insurance policy’s ………… it had/has become a sophisticated form of money laundering………. this will change the parameters somewhat….. I’m not going to say what or which way……………….. You also probably sell 25% more food and beer…….
              as people watch the paint dry……………

          • Bw52 says:

            FM- i love baseball as much as anybody.I don`t want it to end up becoming a afterthought by joe public.only followed during the World Series.Baseball doesn`t to turn into a video game……………….just figure out a way to appeal to a younger audience.The baseball fanatics will be around as always until they die off eventually.Then what happens when a new generation doesn`t give a damn about baseball because its a old slow sport.Dad`s too busy checking the stock market or working late to take junior to the ballgame.or junior plays soccer because its too expensive to have a little league in town or thers not enough interest by the neighborhood kids to form a team.Just sayin…………………..

        • JumboShrimp says:

          BW, we agree again.

        • Nutlaw says:

          I’ll grant that baseball is a lot more fun to watch when we aren’t subjected to pitchers pondering the meaning of life between every pitch and batters running through obnoxious OCD-driven routines at the plate. Put pitchers on a short time limit between pitches and keep batters in the box for a full at bat and the game would no longer be slow or boring.

      • Nutlaw says:

        Um, I’m just surprised that no one threatened you for suggesting to put the Cardinals and Cubs in separate divisions, fm. :D

  7. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    There are some mis conception here today about the status of Franklin……… who in fact makes the changes…….and what influences come to bare in this process ………

    Sanchez and Salas were never intended to be here permanently……..it happened……. Tony has been protecting Sanchez…..and it could hardly be said that he was over used……… they attempted to wait out some seeming fatigue because if Mo gets him back, he ain’t coming back……..that has likely happened at this point because Palleta is involved………. I’ve said enough about Salas recently……….

    Franklin does not have the “Status” of Izzy………… Tony is concerned about his career in a compassionate way…………. leaving him there to roast, was no different than what he had to do with Izzy………
    Bottom line is………..BD isn’t paying for a closer……… if he trades Carpenter, and he will if this swoon continues……..he won’t be getting active players to replace him………he will take prospects………. probably from the Yankees…………….. Tony is pressing Mo to move now by burning a little flesh….. don’t forget how this all ends up……….. BD is at the wheel right now…….and Tony is trying to choke him out with a spaghetti noodle…………….

    • JumboShrimp says:

      Earth to Westcoast, of course DeWitt is at the wheel. He’s the head owner, for the past 15 years.
      Once Bernie and I start calling for Franklin’s head, the Cards are likely to assuage our blood lust. I rebelled about Chris Duncan once and he was soon gone.
      Ryan Franklin has served the Cards loyally and worked hard. He got rewarded with a nice contract. We wish him well in Franklin and Tallet all the very best, in future. Good bye!

      • friendmouse says:

        Were one to have a proclivity for conspiracies and hidden agendas (one in the same?), then what of the thought that perhaps TLR left Franky out there in the line-of-fire last night with either the chance of: a.) discouraging him to the point that he’s ready to hang up the cleats; b.) he’d throw enough pitches to where he “developed” certain soreness in (you pick ‘em) shoulder, elbow, groin, back, necessitating a stint on the DL, after which he’d need to “re-hab” down in the minors, and eventually decides to ride of into setting Oklahoma sun; c.) being on the receiving end of a screaming liner off a nat bat, necessitating a stint…[see b.), part II above]. But “c” would be cruel and not TLR-esque, huh? Just sayin’.

        • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

          Someone will give Frankie a job……… by August……..

          He can’t afford to retire………….. the question is………can Mo get a pack of chewing gum for him without an outright release……………. Mo has definitely enlisted Tony in this attempt, because it is the very same money (Franklin’s salary)……saved or lost……..that is then available for picking up a salary bail player……….. it would appear that Mo is on his own now…………..and that is discouraging……….

  8. JumboShrimp says:

    No mystery why Franklin and Tallet were in last night. We do not use our better pitchers when behind, wasting them on a useless cause.

  9. JumboShrimp says:

    Future Redbirds site:
    “Tony Rasmus seems like a far more reasonable person when he’s not sitting behind a keyboard typing on a blog that invites (and revels in) his worst comments.”

    What say you revellers?

  10. friendmouse says:

    For what it’s worth…

    1. Greene, SS
    2. Rasmus, CF
    3. Pujols, 1B

    4. Holliday, LF
    5. Berkman, RF
    6. Molina, C

    7. Schumaker, 2B
    8. Descalso, 3B
    9. Lohse, P

    1. Werth, RF
    2. Bernadina, CF
    3. Zimmerman, 3B

    4. Nix, LF
    5. Morse, 1B
    6. Espinosa, 2B

    7. Ramos, C
    8. Lannan, P
    9. Desmond, SS
    \
    What’s the theory about putting Tyler in for Theriot…just giving R.T. a break? Greene’s defense may be on a par (nearly) to Theriot’s, but his stick ain’t workin’ so well.

    • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

      Buffalo Springfield…………….

    • friendmouse says:

      If this lineup does not produce runs tonight, then there’s something else amiss. I hope Lannan does not bring his “A” game. With the exception of Greene and Lohse, I LOVE the hitters TLR’s putting out there tonight, and the order is just right, too.

      J-Jay probably comes into the game…depending on how it’s going…after Lance’s 3rd PA? Well, since Lannan’s a southpaw (Man! I much prefer THAT designation to “loogey,”…that’s vile bile), perhaps J-Jay wouldn’t come in until we get into their pen…hopefully by the 6th inning. Albert goes yard tonight. Or Matt. We’ve gotta have a win…however it happens.

      • WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

        Mouse………….I wish we had a southpaw or two myself………. but we don’t………we have the one batter Lefty specialists…………. that Tony likes ………… there is a difference…….Garcia is a Southpaw….

        You are almost saying what you feel Tony might do………….I like that……… Since there are so few options……….stands to reason…………….. that Tony will follow his accustomed patterns……….

        The Tell………if they have Lohse working slow again……………and not using all his pitches early…..it isn’t going to matter much………….. unless he challenges with the change up to protect the fastball…….game is already over…………lets watch……………..

        Lannan will pitch Pujols in.and off the plate……..if you see a few titanic foul balls pull down the line…………he isn’t going to do anything………… he will try to pick up cheap strikes and work away from AP………so unless he is going OPO deep…he likely ain’t going……………

  11. friendmouse says:

    Here’s an off-the-wall thought for TLR to ruminate over…According to some last night, when TLR brought Franky in from the pen, he was conceding the game. And by leaving him in for as long as he did, he further showed the towel was in the ring. If that is really true, then why wouldn’t he consider another little experiment? Since the game is already “lost,” what on earth would it hurt to see how J-Jay would do at shortstop? He might surprise some folks, and we need a good alternative at that position until we get Punto back. Could the fact that he’s a SOUTHPAW be detrimental? I’m too lazy to be a good baseball historian, but I’m wondering if there have been any superior left-handed shortstops? Remember…all times fun! If nothing else, it may bring out some chuckles and lighten the mood just a tad.

  12. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Look at that pitch group RC???????????? he gets the hit…..develops the speed…….and then lets up the last 4 steps because of possible contact?????????????……….
    AP showed up…………………..

  13. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Incredible call…………missed by 6 inches

  14. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    This is a Dave game plan……….save the breaking stuff…because you have to last 7 innings…….sorry.

  15. Kansasbirdman says:

    No grounders yet

  16. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    The funny part will come when you read the my post the will eventually appear out of the dungeon….
    Lohse has his chin out already………………

    • Kansasbirdman says:

      Did you use more “thinly veiled profanity”?

      • Brian Walton says:

        Nothing I could see. Sometimes the spam filter gets WC just because…

        • Kansasbirdman says:

          how about a translator instead? :-) Iguess I’m not smart enough to keep up

          • JumboShrimp says:

            Kansas, you may be way too smart to understand Westie’s blah. Anyone who admits to understanding his stuff belongs in a padded cell.

          • Brian Walton says:

            As Joan Baez once wrote, “Just take what you need and leave the rest”….

            And let’s ease up on the insults, please…

            • Kansasbirdman says:

              I’m definitely not smart when it comes to baseball, other subjects I can hold my own. I’m a long time rebird fan due to my mother’s side of the fam, but just recently, past few years, have taken it upon myself to learn more about this game. I am enjoying the learning. Having not played since very young (I played football-not real well- in h.s. and rugby in college through last 12 yrs) so I am finding there is a lot to learn. I am also finding that when I figure out what wc has to say, often there is some good stuff there. Everybody here adds to the discussion to make it interesting, and contributes to my education

  17. Kansasbirdman says:

    I liked seeing Holidays’ name back in the lineup today. I said yesterday it would jolt the team, hopefully it does

  18. Kansasbirdman says:

    We gotta make em pay for that walk now

  19. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Lohse is death wish pitching now…………

  20. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Thats embarrassing baseball………. Lohse isn’t even in this game…….first thing I do is get Molina out of there………. this is his temp…..his lead…………. that non play on Berkmans throw is embarrassing………
    he is calling a bad game……..Tony and Dave know the body language 30+ pitches…go out and give him a breather………… he was walking Morse…..and ball 4..called a strike cost him a base……….

  21. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Tyler Greene………. Descalso looks like a pony leaguer……….. Lohse get the hit, and with no rest resumes……………….that is bush league……..Dave is napping………..Tony isn’t even in it……..

  22. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Wheres Brown?……….he plays third…………Greene has got to go………..Rasmus’s hand position has deteriorated to square 1…………..

  23. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    I have a problem…………..team is on the killing floor….pitcher hanging by a thread………. and AP looks like its Christmas morning at the 1st base club………..big smile……life is good…….lets help Morse relax a little………welcome him to the bigs………….the guy is an AH………….

    • JumboShrimp says:

      Westie, in picking on Albert, you are a epic chump.

      • JumboShrimp says:

        Pujols homered off a guy with a 2 ERA.

        I propose that this Web site add a condition that posters not call Musial, Gibson, or Pujols nasty names. If you feel a need to do this, toddle off to another team’s web site.

        • crdswmn says:

          I propose that you not make the rules here.

          • JumboShrimp says:

            Maybe some chaps enjoy your proposals, but among them I am not.

            • Nutlaw says:

              Like it or not, people are free to vent their frustrations with players and the team here within reason. Insulting other posters would make for hostile discussions. Insulting baseball players who will never see it causes less trouble. Try not to take personal offense on their behalf.

              • JumboShrimp says:

                Nutlaw, an interesting outlook. I am not taking offense on behalf of Albert. HE does not care what the riffraff think.
                People who bash TLR and Cards players, at a Cardinals site, game after game, should not be surprised by a little counter-fire from fans.

            • Kansasbirdman says:

              Should it be pointed out that you are asking for more rules whilst breaking the current one?

              • blingboy says:

                Rules are made to be broken, Kansas. They regularly get trampled around here. An excess of exuberance I guess.

                I don’t know what to say about the quality of play this series. They ought to just go ahead and tap a half barrel in a tub of ice behind second base.

  24. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Nix sits on the change………… Lohse in resignations stops the baby walk and just pitches………. We might have won this game because they haven’t hit that well save for the Dongs……… but AP is riding the dog now and only Holiday makes a gesture…………… Due to an airport snafu, they likely won’t get home till morning………..

  25. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Can you believe Brown………aborted swing on the first pitch…for money………

  26. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Nice AB by Jay………………….. I clear the bench…………these guys haven’t a clue or any discipling at all…… single scores 2 and he wants to pull something………..

  27. Kansasbirdman says:

    If I want to stay positive it’s hard to find things to post the past few games

  28. crdswmn says:

    Just got back from dinner. Not surprised we are losing. Caught up with Gameday. Lohse gives up 3 HRs? I hope this is not a bad omen. Bad playing and bad managing on this road trip.

  29. crdswmn says:

    It would be nice to salvage this game and end the road trip with a win.

  30. JumboShrimp says:

    Salas was used for 34 pitches. Ideally he should be come out after 20. How we lose is actually important. Its much better to lose without wearing out Salas.

    We are running on essentially a 4 useful person pen: Salas, Boggs, Motte, and Bautista. This is too few. Miller is in a slump, Sanchez is now on the DL, and Franklin and Tallet are worthless. This team does not have a strong enough rotation to have less than a good bullpen. Mo needs to replace Franklin and Tallet asap.

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