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New Rasmania over for-sale signs unwarranted

Colby Rasmus (AP Photo/Jeff Roberson)Word that St. Louis Cardinals outfielder Colby Rasmus is selling his St. Louis-area home fans trade speculation flames for some.

On the heels of the reported trade interest of the Chicago White Sox in St. Louis Cardinals outfielder Colby Rasmus which broke on Sunday is the news that Rasmus has put his St. Louis-area house on the market.

During the Bernie Miklasz radio show on Monday, the Post-Dispatch’s Cardinals beat writer Joe Strauss broke the story as part of a conversation about Rasmus being more available than the Cards are admitting. The pair agreed it would take a substantial offer to make any deal a reality.

“My information is that his house is up for sale in the West County and he is getting ready to move back to Alabama,” Strauss told Miklasz on air.

Some in the Cardinals blogosphere quickly gobbled up Strauss’ juicy tidbit and assumed the worst.

Just as so much of what has previously been written and said on this subject, there is both accuracy and misdirection in what Strauss said.

Right here at The Cardinal Nation Blog on Monday evening, Tony Rasmus, Colby’s father, confirmed his son’s property is in fact on the market.

However, any implication of that being a signal that the talented centerfielder is packing for a trade is off base, according to Tony Rasmus.

Colby will be looking to acquire a new property that will allow him to have an on-site batting cage, a feature his current area home does not allow due to space limitations, explained the elder Rasmus, known on this blog and at The Cardinal Nation forum as “RCWarrior.”

When asked to clarify if his son’s new place will be located in the St. Louis area, RCWarrior said this, with a smiley face following:

“Unless he wants a long commute next year, he’s (sic) better find something close to Busch.”

Further, he explained the younger Rasmus already has a residence in his native Alabama as well. Returning there, as Colby did at the conclusion of the season, is not unusual during the winter months.

As additional explanation, it is worth recalling that father and son had been doing one-on-one cage work during the 2010 season at a local St. Louis hitting facility. As this gained visibility externally, an unnamed individual contacted the proprietor, who cut off their access without warning or explanation, according to Tony Rasmus, who then returned to Alabama.

While attempts to influence public opinion about this player’s situation are hardly new coming from a number of parties, I have no reason to doubt Tony Rasmus’ explanation and certainly recommend against any overreaction based on partial information.

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72 Responses to “New Rasmania over for-sale signs unwarranted”

  1. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    West Coast himself has be asked to design the new batting cage……….. featuring only half a plate, to be moved around as deemed appropriate…………………………………………..

  2. crdswmn says:

    The Rasmus trade obsession just cracks me up. It is going to be a fun offseason. :)

  3. JumboShrimp says:

    After 56 years, the Giants win it all. Its nice to see ML crowns worn outside NY, LA, and Boston.
    Cain, Linceum, Baumgarner, Posey were high draft picks. Renteria and Huff free agents. Burrell a cast off. Young pitchers and mostly veteran players.
    Zito and Wellemeyer were not big contributors.

  4. JumboShrimp says:

    Congratulations especially to Edgar Renteria, two time WS winner.
    His success is an interesting commentary on Boston. Edgar went there in 2005 on a 4 year deal, but was traded to Atlanta after just one year. Boston turned to Julio Lugo soon after, entering another terrible contract. Yet even in 2010, 5 years after leaving Boston, Renteria still has some good play left in the tank. He may not be able to play 150 games anymore, but Edgar will get a contract from somebody in 2011. Will Mo be a suitor?

  5. RCWarrior says:

    I concur Jumbo. And after further review, this seems like what TLR trys to put together each year. A great pitching staff is priority number one, and the Giants have shown that philosophy is pretty sound.

    Jumbo…referencing post number 4…your Renteria example is a perfect example of how every player does not fit into every system. But he evidently fits well into the Giants style of play, and a comfortable player plays better.

    Did I read somewhere that Renteria was considering retirement?

  6. Brian Walton says:

    Yes, RC. Renteria is thinking about retiring. Here is a very interesting snippet from the San Jose Mercury News.

    Huff recalled a meeting at Wrigley Field in late September when Renteria began crying, telling his teammates he wanted to win one more time.

    “He broke down, and we all broke down with him,” Huff said. “Since then, I’ve wanted this more for him than anybody. What a leader he is.”

    TLR used to call Renteria “the captain” out of respect. Too bad he and his agent chased a few more bucks from the Red Sox in what turned out to be a disaster or he would have remained a Cardinal instead of bouncing around from Boston to Atlanta to Detroit to San Fran.

  7. JumboShrimp says:

    Lets see….

    RCW suggests Renteria did not “fit” with the Cards. Actually, he fit quite well, collecting 100 RBIs during 2003.

    Brian suggests Renteria “chased a few more bucks” and has been “bouncing.” The few more bucks were millions. The Union likes guys to select the higher offer. Edgar did. It a normal part of the game, like balls and strikes. Renteria is collecting $10MM from the Giants and got another WS win. All’s well that ends well, for Edgar.

    The Cards were interested in making an offer after the 2008 season, but the Giants vaulted his salary into the clouds and the Cards reasonably went in another direction.

  8. Memphis25 says:

    Brian if Renteria’s agent didn’t chase the money we might not have RC around!

  9. RCWarrior says:

    I didn’t sugeest that at all Jumbo. He bounced around to a few teams since he’d left St. Louis. But you referenced Boston and my comment was pointed toward Edgar not fitting in in Boston for some reason, not the Cardinals.

    Jumbo wrote, “The Cards were interested in making an offer after the 2008 season, but the Giants vaulted his salary into the clouds and the Cards reasonably went in another direction.”

    Well I guess we see how that worked out for both the Giants and the Cardinals. To get to the summit of Mt. Everest you may have to pass through some clouds to get their. :)

  10. Brian Walton says:

    Jumbo, go back and check your history. The Cards offer to Renteria was close to the offer made by Boston, but was less.

    Most people would agree that playing for five teams in six years would be considered “bouncing around.”

  11. RCWarrior says:

    Great point Memphis…………WOW!!!

    Right about now Jumbo is thinking that if the Cardinals knew then what they know now, they would have given Edgar the extra money. :)

  12. RCWarrior says:

    My bad Jumbo, “there”, not “their” referencing post #9.

  13. easton714 says:

    Should Edgar reconsider retirement, the Giants will certainly buy out his option and it might be fitting for him to go out with the Cardinals.

    We could use someone like him and he might have personal interest in returning.

    If not, I wish him the best. I’ve always liked him. Not many players have the opportunity to end their careers after winning the World Series (and being named MVP).

  14. RCWarrior says:

    Maybe Easton……what would Edgar bring if he was signed? I would guess at somewhere between 8 and 10 million. Is that something that could be fit into the Cardinals budget?

  15. easton714 says:

    For one year? No way. His option in SF is for $10.5MM and is a lock to be bought out.

    He didn’t have a particularly productive season either. I would hope half that would do it. More than that and I don’t think he’d be worth it.

    And he wouldn’t be a shortstop in St. Louis either. If he could (or would be willing to) handle second, I would go for it. If not, I am back on Hudson. He shouldn’t take more than $5-6MM.

  16. HBTexas says:

    Edgar Rentería… that’s a winner. What a way to bookend a storied career.

    In just his second year in the league, he helped his team win the ’97 Series, hitting a game-winning, walk-off, 2-out, RBI single in the 11th inning of game 7. Now, 13 years later, his 3-run jack in the top of the 7th of a scoreless pitching duel again provides his team the margin of victory… and Edgar garners MVP honors.

    That’s the kind of stuff dreams are made of… just one more reason you just gotta’ love this game called baseball.

    Congratulations to Edgar and the G-men.

  17. Bw52 says:

    Thanks for the memories ER.I still don`t want him in STLouis in 2011.I would much rather have a younger cheaper player to grow with.Then again i am not TLR.So who knows>?

  18. ball in play says:

    And the GM wants to deepen the lineup by adding, in his words, “a couple of guys who can hit 15 to 20 homers” in support of Albert Pujols and Matt Holliday.

    “We need to have more threats in the lineup and not rely so much on the No. 3 and No. 4 hitters,” Mozeliak said.

    He also suggested he’d be on the lookout to add a No. 2 catcher who can supply more offense.
    —–
    congrats edgar, freddy, giants

  19. easton714 says:

    That ’15 to 20 homers’ comment struck me (and still strikes me) as ridiculous. We are looking for a second baseman. Other positions, such as RF and third base, are not even on the same wavelength in terms of priority.

    Getting one, in our situation, would seem to be a stretch. Wanting “a couple” of them just strikes me as a bizarre thing to say.

    I guess Uribe would fit the mold but he wouldn’t be a primary target for me. Who else would be in play?

    Certainly not Utley, Cano, or Kinsler.

    Uggla? Maybe – but I doubt it. We would have to offer Shelby (plus spend a lot of money) – and doing so (trading Shelby) for Uggla would tick me off.

    Kelly Johnson? Maybe, but I wouldnt’ expect that many homers from him in St. Louis.

    So…what did/does he really mean by that?

    Hamilton ‘could’ hit 15 to 20 homers.

    Craig ‘could’ hit 15 to 20 homers.

    Freese ‘could’ hit 15 to 20 homers.

    What/who does he really mean?

  20. RCWarrior says:

    Not knowing the dollar requirements either of these two guys will demand or the payroll limitations the Cardinals have a Tejada or a Renteria would be a good fit for a TLR team imo.

    Everyone jokes about TLR’s dislike for younger guys and his love affair with the older player but it seems to be a fact that TLR gets as much out of the older guy as can be gotten out of him. He does seem to have a knack for putting them in a situation where they can’t help but be successful. ITs been stated before but it also seems evident that the older player seems to handle those platooning roles much better than the young guy. The young guys just seem to really struggle in these situations.

    So it really goes back to my initial premise that it may just be more beneficial for Mo to provide TLR will the Tejada’s or Uribe’s or Renteria’s of the world in order to surround TLR with what he works with best.

    And in resigning TLR it just seems that the best way to go is with those grizzled vets for these next two years. After that, TLR will ride off into the sunset and the Cardinals can go young. I don’t know, the more you think about it the more it seems the only way to approach it.

    Great pitching staff + mainly veteran starting 9 = Giants…………..This is a formula that can be put together real quick if you are the Cardinals imo and I believe it will fit TLR to a T.

  21. RCWarrior says:

    When I read that comment Easton my first thought was Craig and Freese. Both of these guys are opposite field hitters with oppo power who could hit 20 HR’s.

    Kelly Johnson may be someone the Cards could wrangle away from the DBacks for a reliever or two. Maybe add a Tyler Green in there to seal the deal. And Kelly could hit 15-20 jacks.

    Slim pickings in the free agent market and not alot of pieces available to trade make for some tough work for Mo.

  22. easton714 says:

    I would do Motte and Greene for Kelly Johnson in a heartbeat.

    I still think I prefer signing Orlando Hudson, though, because I would like to see what we could do with a truly above average up-the-middle DP combo. And, when you think about it, that might just make pretty awesome up-the-middle defense from home plate to the batter’s eye!

  23. ball in play says:

    714– not as an endorsement, but rather fitting within the criteria, i’ll add…..tejada, edwin encarnacion, jose lopez and uribe. EE and jose lopez seem to be on the bubble, as to their immediate future with their club. both are easily under 30 yrs old.

    there is even talk of jose lopez (2B/3B) being non-tender (for what it’s worth), w/a 17 HR / 81 rbi, last 3yr avg.
    he is better away from safeco. maybe an affordable option, if non-tendered, in the kelly johnson mold, from last offseason.

  24. RCWarrior says:

    BIP, Those guys seem to me to be in the right mold for the Cardinals. I would’t at all be surprised if the Cards ended up with someone from that list.

  25. easton714 says:

    I want no part of Jose Lopez or Edwin Encarnacion. None. Zip. Zero. Nada.

    Tejada or Uribe would be fine.

  26. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Hey, you guys, don’t forget to vote……………………….. on second though, remember, the election is on Thursday…………………

    Edgar achieved a moment of competitive nobility……….well deserved it seems. He left here looking for it……… even money doesn’t bring him back here……….

  27. crdswmn says:

    Edgar Renteria as a Cardinal again is a nice sentiment, but let’s face it, he spent a big part of 2010 on the DL. The Cardinals have had enough of that.

    Uribe I am not too sure about. Tejada would be fine. Hudson or Uggla? Not gonna happen.

  28. easton714 says:

    Why wouldn’t Hudson happen?

    He wouldn’t cost us minor leaguers. He won’t be expensive. He won’t require a multi-year deal.

    What is the obstacle?

  29. crdswmn says:

    The obstacle? Another team that will pay him more money.

  30. easton714 says:

    Who and why?

    He signed a one year $5MM deal this past year and isn’t exactly deserving of a significant raise.

    Certainly someone might be willing to pay him more money. You could say that about every single person we could possibly talk about. I would not expect anyone to offer multiple years or much more than $5MM.

  31. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    DeWitt isn’t going to sign anyone that doesn’t influence his bargaining posture with AP………

    If you know what that is……..or who that is………..let me know……………. baseball is just a general reference point in these decisions.

    SF……….if they want to repeat………will do what? AP+Yadi ………for Posey, Cain, Sanchez. We win the division by 15 games……………………They wouldn’t touch that deal……………………….and it wouldn’t be the money…………..I threw in Yadi………he would be an asset with a new coach and absent AP.

    Somebody mention Mo saying we need a back up catcher with some pop………….?????????? that one is loaded with “what” ??????????

    We are going to have to talk about “the elbow” of AW at some point, and the forearm of KL……..Lets wait till December on that………..it will become more news worthy.

  32. crdswmn says:

    The Nats and the Indians have made offers before. Even the Padres if they decide to non-tender Tejada. I think Hudson is a better player than Tejada. I think Tejada may end up being cheaper. I’m just giving my opinion (which is worth next to nothing). I won’t be hurt if I am told I’m full of it. It’s happened many times before. :)

  33. crdswmn says:

    Ok, forget what I said. Brian told us Tejada ended up being a Type A. I forgot that. I still think Hudson is a better player than Tejada and that Tejada’s Type A status is wrong.

  34. blingboy says:

    An infielder will need to be a top of the order guy, no question about it. Not speed necessarily, we’re not trying to manufacture runs here, but a good OBP guy. The idea being to allow Albert and Matt to hit more three run homers. They can’t earn their keep hitting solo shots, nor watching from the dugout as guys scamper around scoring with them or without them.

  35. ball in play says:

    matt came to the plate with 484 runners on (4th highest total in mlb), albert with 465 (9th highest).

  36. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Basing an offense around AP has shown itself to be a losing proposition……………can you count the ways?

    The team picked up right away with Holiday batting third……….until AP wined (through his mouthpiece) that he was the third hitter, and MH was hired to be his back up…………..
    How many places in the galaxy, do you think that is regarded as nobility? ……….

    BD is in the “Crony” neo-con spotlight………..it’s his play……..part of a much larger social/financial political statement…………….. Pujols is under complete control at this point by Lozano……….in any possible scenario, St Louis is the foundation for establishing his value in any possible free market bidding………………………… BD knows that no such situation exists……… has AP’s “fame” already been sold…… where it might be better exploited? Is a 10/300 contact actually a fantastical financial play by BD……necessitating major ticket price escalations, 7/10 deferment toys, huge insurance speculations with controllable variables………….. a ten year guaranteed excuse against criticism about performance or the cruelties of bad luck……….”.hey what can we do”……bad contract………!!!!!!!!!!!

    All of BD’s moves weren’t just the cheap one’s………….they were the safe ones……… Many of you are aware enough at this point to recognize…………the 30 million dollars worth off “Fluff” in the MH contract…………were directly related to exposing the “boys club” to a greater liability in the “confidential” collusion settlement………….as was pointed out by me at the time…………….
    such close friends……………….. if AP is spurred this winter…..possible……it is easily predictable that he would agree to other “arrangements” ………. (Boston) with a nice extension 6/180 probably…………no competition………..in a trade………. you think he would ride out 2011 to go on the open market………..or that BD would allow it…………….. he does the surgery with insurance buffers before BD agrees to have AP in a feeding frenzy with an attitude…………. Will we even notice………….after all look at the ” tea party “…… these guy will try anything.

  37. CariocaCardinal says:

    RC, re #20 – TLR may have got squeezed some juice out of some veterans in the past but last year he failed miserably – with about 8 different ones. Chance? Has he lost the touch?

    WC, – blah,blah,blah, yada, yada, yada, blah, blah blah

  38. blingboy says:

    “Basing an offense around AP has shown itself to be a losing proposition”.

    Sort of like basing an offense around Barry Bonds was a losing proposition. It cannot now be disputed that the Giants are more successful without him. In the standings that is, I don’t know about the balance sheet.

  39. CariocaCardinal says:

    bb – Yes, the Giants have shown us that there is life after losing your offensive Superstar. In fact, without looking, I’d guess Bonds was an even bigger % of the Giant’s offense than AP is of ours.

  40. RCWarrior says:

    WC, just got back from voting……..just about filled in the straight democratic ticket box like you would have liked…..then I remembered I lived in Alabama, not New York or California………..and bam…….Republican it is. Let Bush make all the money and let BD share in the wealth, let the oil company execs all have their own g6, let the bankers on Wall Street swindle every dummy dumb enough to get swindled but until you see all the free loaders that live around these parts don’t think I want my tax dollars to go one time to that bunch of food stamp getting, 10 kid having with 10 different men banging bunch. No sir ree buddy. I’ll let you save the world while I’ll just protect my little corner of nowhere down here in GODs country. :)

  41. RCWarrior says:

    I just believe any baseball person of some intelligence would have to agree that if it ain’t broke don’t try to fix it. So why would the Cards try to do anything any different than they have been?

    This is where me and WC agree. The only reason to keep things as they are is because there are 3 million fans coming through the gates and the team didn’t win. Why change it up?

  42. RCWarrior says:

    CC…..I don’t think TLR has lost his touch. Too many young players. They don’t do well when they are bounced around or platooned here and there.

    TLR needs a boat load of those grizzled vets and with this pitching staff he’ll win it all.

  43. blingboy says:

    CC, good point. Would be interesting to look into/debate. % of offense, % of payroll, % of available oxygen consumed.

  44. Nutlaw says:

    CC, I think that it would be fair to state that Westbrook and Miles were veterans who fared well under La Russa last season.

  45. CariocaCardinal says:

    Nut, Westbrook maybe. Miles? .627 OPS? Below average defense? Are you kidding me?

  46. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Country is broken RC…….I agree…………opportunistic racism isn’t the answer………entitlements aren’t the answer…………… If you do it your way……….any distillation of religion and natural selection gives you Hitler…………. education and tolerance gets you a chance…………… I’m so much farther to the right than you are, you would be amazed………….I’m just not cruel………..

    No one here knows Westbrook’s price……………. Miles wasn’t an irritant. He knew the role and the environment……….. In some of the “folks here” don’t recognize the signs………..Tony has isolated himself, tying off all vital organs………..he is going to war with a smile. He got shafted this year. They made BD pay in full for the chance to carry out his AP strategy………. Lozano left BHSC with a pat on the butt……..he was approached just as I said, about the possibility of a collusion settlement being good for everyone……….it opened a door for him……………..the people that are doing that, are about something……………………I am well know for not giving a GD about AP…………………… what you don’t seem to see…….are the variations for economic manipulation surrounding this mess…………….BD could miss the FA market again waiting for AP……….lose AP……….and use the “we just didn’t see the right deal or player” excuse again……knowing all along that we wouldn’t be signing AP…….. BD knows the rotation has problems…………AW and CC won’t last 2 months into 2011 if they are subjected to the same stresses as 2010…………..Lohse could easily be tossed into that………Garcia is young, life is becoming more challenging I’d guess…….. if we don’t start kicking some A and scoring some runs…………we won’t be third in the division…………

  47. blingboy says:

    We will know something useful by next weekend when the Westbrook window closes.

  48. blingboy says:

    Mets hired J P Ricciardi. Really loading up. In a few years their system will look like ours.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/03/sports/baseball/03mets.html?_r=1&ref=baseball

  49. JumboShrimp says:

    Back to discussion at the top of this thread.

    Brian, even if you think its bad for some reason, its ok to “bounce.” Experienced baseball players are mercenaries, who have earned their manumission. They go to the highest bidder, after they have earned economic freedom. I think this is just. My guess is you do not, but its like art, there is no one absolute answer, its a personal subjective choice. I happen to favor freedom for players. If you do not, this is your ethical outlook and I can’t say its wrong, even though I happen not share it. I like people, regardless of their flaws, versus their statistics. I can’t help this, its the way I’m wired. Men make numbers, rather than the other way around.

    HBTexas: glad you are a Cards fan. Thanks for posting .

  50. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Inspired Jumbo……………… and timely I might add. Its a magnificent evening for speeches.

    HBTexas…………you remind me so much of our friend Cardinal 57 who we all liked so much…

    Tragically, he lost his mind under the pressures that confront a major contributor here……
    In his delirium, he began posting opinions from other blogs right here in this very small venue…
    thus narrowing the parameters of “quality and relevance”. that dignify all subject matter here.
    In addition he made the mistake of hitting on CRD, our female blogger, who is now committed to a romantic involvement………on the west coast……….. so error not by expressing territorial behaviors that could be misconstrued……………. other than that……. looking forward to more of your insightful observations.

    P.S. Also, be careful when your speaking to “Not Jumbo” who we call the Brazilian or CC…. I believe he calls himself………….. he doesn’t bite, but he will certainly soil a nice sweater if given a chance………………….. enjoy………..

  51. HBTexas says:

    Jumbo — Thanks for the welcome.

  52. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    The way the elections are running BB……….this will be a thing of the past……….that’s the Mission district………..it’s in a state of slow rioting every day…………………before to long that behavior will become obsolete……….as everyone will be carrying guns………………

  53. JumboShrimp says:

    Westie, thanks.
    I just heard a troubling rumor, however. If the Democrats lose the House, Nancy Pelosi has said WestCoastBirdWatcher is going to have to step down as Speaker of the Cardinal Nation Blog.
    I think this is unfair.
    Nancy shot herself in the foot, but wants Westie to take the fall. I say Heck No. Keep posting those soothing “……….”es.

  54. blingboy says:

    It’s bad enough with just the bad guys packing, Westy. But just in case, I’m fitting my Mossberg autoloader with a sling and working up a bandolier of ammo.

  55. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    I just stay close too RC BB. He has a very spacious “kill zone”……….

    Jumbo, don’t be troubled……….. I have no affection for Nancy P. Try to think of it this way. If you were the only poster here, Brian wouldn’t be able to go to Arizona……………. Who doesn’t know what your going to say? Your posts are never predictive. They are a constant observational rhetoric, validating your paternal/maternal confrontational instincts……….. you have forgotten more about the Cardinal Organization in the last 10 minutes………..than I have ever been aware of……. that is the truth…………….. the very very narrow, and I must say fleeting glimpses, that I have concerning Cardinal matters I write down here………..for fun………..I am not inclined to give much thought about what happens to this team………. I am essentially a sentinel………who has come to like baseball……….

  56. HBTexas says:

    Westy — Thanks to you also.

    Been reading here a few weeks (back in the archives as well, now in mid-June) and I like what I see… interesting articles (with an historical/statistical twist) by Brian & Ian, and commentary by a knowledgeable group of fans and interesting personalities.

    Sorry to hear about your friend 57. I’ve read a lot of his posts. He seemed lucid enough and was certainly prolific. Haven’t noticed CC soiling sweaters or engaged in any biting… save for the occasional exercise of some biting wit. But I’ll keep an eye on him just the same.

  57. crdswmn says:

    57 hit on me? I must really be losing it. :)

    WC–I’m not sure about our compatibility………..I’m a stick to the facts kind of gal……….and there is that geography thing……….just sayin…….. :)

  58. Brian Walton says:

    Jumbo, ref comment #50, of course, it would un-American to be against freedom.

    On the other hand, signing a big contract with one team, only to be traded twice more under the same deal is considerably less desirable.

  59. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    The application of laws pertaining to the architecture and “factualization” of structural logic, can be highly biased CRD………………..by the framework or orientation from which they are established…
    You wouldn’t believe the truth…………..

    Heart broken……….I return to the bosom of my tiny opera singer, hoping she does not sense the flames of your spurning………………………….

    Your welcome Tex.

    LHP Ted Lilly signed a three-year, $33 million contract to remain with the Dodgers. Lilly was acquired July 31 from the Cubs, along with 2B Ryan Theriot. Lilly’s agent said his client left money on the table by signing so early with the Dodgers.

    This thins the market some what, and sets the market above local commitments………..it also suggests that there is an “apprehensiveness” concerning the market by Lilly agent, Larry O’Brien………….he’s not a major player. of interest…….

    He will also receive a $3.5 million signing bonus and full no-trade rights in 2011 and 2012. Lilly, who turns 35 in January, just finished a four-year, $40 million contract. He went 10-12 with a 3.62 ERA in 30 starts between the Cubs and Dodgers this season. Staying in Los Angeles should give him a pretty good chance to remain useful in mixed leagues.

  60. RCWarrior says:

    A couple of recent additions WC. These are not my actual guns but these are identical. These were purchased last weekend at a Gun Show in Columbus Ga. Nice additions to the collection. We shoot every saturday at my house with about 30 people. We live in the county outside of the city limits but we have 2 or 3 cops cars pull in every time we shoot because the folks in the city complain…go figure. :) Unfortunately for them there is nothing they can do.

    So WC, when the war breaks out you had better head our way. :)

    Israeli made Golani (Galil) 30 in the clip. Sweet shooting gun.
    http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WpOIccUhitU/0.jpg

    Israeli made .50 cal Desert Eagle w 10″ barrel
    http://www.flecktarn.co.uk/actguns/desert_eagle_10inch.jpg

    And then there is my baby…The S & W 500..the most powerful handgun made. A Beast. Got some 500 grain bullets this past weekend and that made this baby hard to hold on to. Cory’s girlfriend had it double fire on her and the gun kicked and hit her right in the forehead.
    http://www.badassoftheweek.com/badass-sandw500.jpg

    And then an old fav was the last we bought this past weekend/ 12 guage DB
    http://www.members.tripod.com/~VanessaWest/klebold12.jpg

  61. RCWarrior says:

    WC, I for one think the Nancy Pelosi reference is going too far. Jumbo might as well call you Osama Bin Laden.

    Bling….Mossberg autoloader….nice!

    WC wrote, ” you have forgotten more about the Cardinal Organization in the last 10 minutes………..than I have ever been aware of……. that is the truth…………….. the very very narrow, and I must say fleeting glimpses, that I have concerning Cardinal matters I write down here………..for fun………..I am not inclined to give much thought about what happens to this team………. I am essentially a sentinel………who has come to like baseball……….”

    WC…I concur.

  62. Brian Walton says:

    Well, this IS a baseball-related site. At least, that is what I envisioned… ;-)

  63. RCWarrior says:

    Sorry Brian, The talk of riots, Nancy Pelosi, the election, guns, and democrats sent me off on a tangent. I won’t ve stray off topic again. :)

  64. philskill says:

    RCW, Talking guns and the election is all we do around here, your tangent was appreciated. By the way, NICE GUNS! I wish I could afford to buy more than the 2 I have, but oh well. I do love my .38 special.

  65. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    10 inch barrel??????? Doc Holiday Special? ButtLine? or does it have a shoulder extension?

    The twelve reminds me of my “StageCoach” which is made in Brazil now. 3inch mags with titanium bearings. Capable of a damaging indictment.

  66. CariocaCardinal says:

    Come on Brian, you never used baseballs for skeet shooting? Gins and baseball definitely related — just ask Ryan Franklin!

  67. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    The Cardinals sure maximized that investment………… it tells me that Mo is really in a state of isolation……….many teams becoming more aware of the dysfunction………………..hoping to capitalize on a misplay…………………… Mather just got lucky……………..my prediction……..you will see him advance there with better coaching……………… period. He could never alter his swing here, because the appearance of power bat was something the Cardinals wanted to advertise……..Joey bombs……just waiting for a chance to explode………………… Mo is just doing his best to cover for the real …”decider”………….

  68. blingboy says:

    I would guess the Cards shopped Mather and Stav some after the break. No interest. Remember, it has been suggested that we need better analysts. Mather has been thought of as a hot prospect until rather recently, even though he doesn’t really play a position at MLB quality, has only an ok arm and is not especially athletic. Certain blog voters had a crush on him too, just like with Cox, who is most likely another Mather IMO.

  69. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Brave’s don’t think so BB…………..they like the lanky farm boys…………

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