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Top Ten Reasons Why Kyle Lohse Doesn’t Want to Make a Fourth Rehab Start

Despite shaky results to date, St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Kyle Lohse isn’t happy about having to make another minor league rehab start.

Kyle Lohse (AP Photo/Jeff Roberson)As many St. Louis Cardinals fans have heard, pitcher Kyle Lohse has been rehabbing from May forearm surgery, working up his pitch count in a series of minor league starts.

Despite dropping down to Double-A for his third start after two uneven Triple-A outings, Lohse continued to struggle. In total, the 31-year-old has a 6.75 ERA in 12 minor league innings.

Following his most recent outing in Springfield on Thursday night, during which he allowed 12 hits and five runs in five innings, Lohse proclaimed himself ready to go. One explanation the pitcher offered for the all the runs on the scoreboard was the preparation of the baseballs, stating he should have brought his own with him.

Agreeing with most sane observers, Cardinals pitching coach Dave Duncan doesn’t feel Lohse is yet ready to return to the majors. As a direct result, Lohse has been asked to make a fourth rehab start. It will likely be this coming Tuesday at a park to be determined, instead of him getting the ball against Chicago on Friday night as had been projected.

In a terse discussion with the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, an unhappy Lohse made it clear he does not agree with his coach’s decision.

In the spirit of David Letterman and with some help from our readers, we offer the…

Top Ten Reasons Why Kyle Lohse Doesn’t Want to Make a Fourth Rehab Start

10. No reserved spot to park his Bentley at tiny minor league stadiums.

9. Hey, at least all the home runs were only solo shots.

8. He then gets stuck buying another ping-pong table for the local team.

7. All the travel interferes with his tee times.

6. The food is far better in the major league clubhouse and there are many more places to avoid reporters.

5. It’s not like Jeff Suppan and Blake Hawksworth don’t get shelled, too.

4. Just be happy he didn’t pull a Brad Penny and take three months off with pay.

3. Doesn’t want to drop down to Palm Beach in hopes of looking good against hitters.

2. He will have to bring his own balls with him.

And, the number one reason why Kyle Lohse does not want to make a fourth rehab start…

1. Four years, $41 million guaranteed with a full no-trade clause.

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163 Responses to “Top Ten Reasons Why Kyle Lohse Doesn’t Want to Make a Fourth Rehab Start”

  1. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    You missed the clever editing by Hummel Brian……….Of course Dave didn’t say he wasn’t ready. The Tony/Dave posture had to do with the Suppan start. Its not smart to undercut his hopes of a rotation spot before a key start. Whats even more interesting is your uniformed conjecture on the matter. Lohse was ready to pitch two weeks ago, but that didn’t mesh with the fun at the deadline………….. The scouting report comes from the management side of the growing rift. It was managed nicely by Tony and Dave……………. watch how the 25 million and no trade plays in the market. Watch what happens when Suppan gets shelled.

    Hummel got angry because he couldn’t get a satisfactory interview……………….. his editorial was about allot more than that. You have no idea where this is going and why. It isn’t a fantasy scenario.

  2. JumboShrimp says:

    We actually want guys who want to play. Lohse is going to get paid no matter what. Its nice if he still wants to work for his money.

    Its good the Cards can give Lohse more time to train. Thanks to Suppan pitching better than he did for Milwaukee, we are able to use up to the full 3 week rehab period to elevate Kyle’s game.

  3. JumboShrimp says:

    Lohse had a very unusual injury for a pitcher. His operation is uncommon within baseball. Thus the medical prognosis is probably more uncertain than usual. There is no reason to operate on the guy and then have him rush and reinjure himself. This explains why the Cards have been careful with Lohse.

  4. JumboShrimp says:

    I like the 10th reason, above. It must be tough to protect a Bentley. Wish I had the problem.

  5. crdswmn says:

    Anybody know how long the umpires will wait before calling the game a rainout?

  6. Nutlaw says:

    Yeah, this seems like a very long time for a rain delay to run without a cancellation.

  7. crdswmn says:

    We don’t play the Marlins again this season. What then? Off day? End of season?

  8. crdswmn says:

    The game has been cancelled.

  9. blingboy says:

    Another reason he doesn’t want to do it is he may very well suck again. I’m sure he’s been given the idea that the organization wants to see results. He said he’d have pitched different if he was trying to put up zeros. Well, they told him, try putting up zeros. Not an unreasonable request. So far, he is not one of the five best starters. That, I assume, was pointed out.

    We were three games back for a couple days a month ago, so we haven’t lost ground. But its a month later now. It seems the Reds are not going to fold as was thought early on. It seems we are not going to put them away. We are too inconsistant to put together that kind of a streak. This series is not good for us. It’s on the road for one thing, and the other is that the best we can hope for is to end up 1 game ahead, and the worst is 5 behind. So there is a lot more of a down side. If they get swept its not the end of the world, if we do, yikes. I’m holding my breath.

  10. crdswmn says:

    I don’t think we will get swept. The Reds haven’t swept us this season even in Cinci. Our offense has been showing some signs of consistency in the last few games. Albert is red hot, so is Jay, and two of our offensive liablilities, Brendan and Yadi, have picked it up since the ASB. I never make predictions, bad karma you know. :)

  11. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_54275c46-a22f-537f-a2f8-7358030a86a1.html

    Hummel continues to push the ” malcontent” angle……….relentlessly……. Tony and Dave continue to counter……………….they offer him the cake walk in Palm beach…………and he takes the snake walk. in the high desert…………..the Aces on a hot streak……………………. I think it must be a sign of weakness that he wants a big league catcher and some familiar faces. Maybe he just wants to golf Tahoe…………. I wonder………..what ……Tony said……….. to him………..will he become a member of the brotherhood? A conspirator? With the frequent days off coming up……something is bound to happen……….With Westbrook’s strong showing……….BD would have to spend some of AP’s money to sign him before October. BD’s strong and enduring friendship with Scotty is sure going to come in handy.

  12. blingboy says:

    Its just the down side thing again Westy. Plausable deniability. If you get roughed up by AAA hitters its not so bad. But if you get creamed by A ballers, what can you say.

    Righteous observations crdswmn.

  13. crdswmn says:

    I still expect Lohse to suck when he comes back. Tony will have no choice but to start him and we don’t need a weak starter in the last stretches of a pennant race. We are better off with Suppan.

  14. CariocaCardinal says:

    Good point BB. AAA hitters, altitude, long trip. Lots of built in excuses.

  15. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    How about this……………the Reds fold under the pressure………because they are still the Reds. They are bullying weak teams with their “machismo” right now………….. but the bully is always filled with fear. One way or another, they will make us a better team…………if they pound, we get a new player. If they fold, we get a much needed super boost from all the “Reds meat”. In the end, they will likely beat themselves……………

    In these matters BB, Tony and Dave usually know best. If they have a strength, this would be it. “California psychology”. Reno kicked Memphis’ ass last night. Should be a fair test. Wild guess says that Lohse has been trying to achieve too many of Dave’s mechanical suggestions. He just needs to jump into the fire…………………………………. The only thing that really appears true, is that Lohse’s child like in his naivety………………………….the plausible deny ability model looks a little weak. Almost like a no win scenario. You know that BD isn’t going to hold on to 4 front line starters. Something has to give. Maybe we will see why Hummel is pumping his story.

  16. CardFanSince57 says:

    SOME “INSIDE POOP” ABOUT THE REDS
    (from a dated Yard Barker article)

    * When the Reds steal at least one base in a game, they are 30-14. When they don’t, they are 33-34.

    * If the Reds blast a homer, they’re 49-22. They’re 14-26 when no longball is present.

    * Scoring 3+ runs is magic. The Reds are 60-27 when they pop 3+ runs on the scoreboard. It’s usually ugly if they don’t as they post a 3-21 record if they’re held below 3 runs.

    * The Reds have scored first in only 48 of their 111 games this season. Of those 48 games, they are 36-12. They are below .500 (27-36) when they don’t.

    * When Cincy leads after 7 innings, they have posted a 50-3 record.

    http://network.yardbarker.com/MLB/article_external/Todays_Reds_Lineup_May_Look_Strange/3014845

  17. CardFanSince57 says:

    THE isportsweb (Gerard Apadula) TAKE ON TODAY’S GAME…

    Chris Carpenter, 35, is coming off a very good performance vs. Houston on August 4th. He went 7 1/3 innings while giving up just 4 hits and 2 runs. He has allowed just 11 earned runs in his last 6 starts while logging 44 innings pitched. Lastly, he is 3-0 in 5 starts with a 1.64 ERA since the All-Star break and most importantly is 3-0 with a 1.29 ERA vs. Cincinnati thus far in 2010. Chris is a big game pitcher and this is a big game.

    Mike Leake has had a tough go of it lately. He has lost 3 of his last 4 decisions while surrendering 20 runs in his last 30 innings pitched which in turn drove his ERA from about 3.00 to 3.86. That’s the bad part….the good part is he beat St. Louis 4-3 back on May 15th while going 6 innings and allowing just 4 hits and 2 runs.

    Edge: STL

    http://network.yardbarker.com/MLB/article_external/Preview_Cardinals_vs_Reds_battle_for_supremacy/3017639

  18. crdswmn says:

    I like Carp’s chances in this one, but I never take anything for granted.

  19. CardFanSince57 says:

    There can be little doubt that we will see Chris, Jaime and Adam (in that order) at their very best in the series against the Reds. If our resurgent offense remains consistent, it is probable that we will enjoy the sweetest, most satisfying and most meaningful sweep of the season.

    Although…
    The Reds bullpen is superior to ours
    more Holds than us – 50 to 43
    more Saves than us – 32 to 23
    Whereas we have only 2 relievers with at least 9 holds, they have 3. However, their closer is not much better than ours: Cordero’s best days as a bona fide Closer have come and gone and, with inconsistent command and velocity issues, he is now just about as leaky as our Franklin, although he strikes out far more batters (44 to 26).

    Although…
    The Reds batting is superior to ours
    more hits than us – 1030 to 989
    better average than us – .272 to .266
    more home runs than us – 126 to 110
    more RBI than us – 521 to 468

    The deeper that our starters can get us, the better chance we have at beating the Reds. When we go into later innings, assuming that our offense remains inconsistent, we are likely to be beaten by the combination of the Reds’ superior offense and relievers. On the other hand, if the recent resurgence of our offense is lasting, the Reds have got a big problem…

  20. CariocaCardinal says:

    Holds and saves are mostly a function of how you use your bullpen not how effective it is.

  21. CardFanSince57 says:

    A point well taken, Carioca; and your point serves to fuel the good reason for optimism…

  22. CariocaCardinal says:

    No way in heck I trade our bullpen for theirs. I dont even trade our closer for theirs (Cordero).

  23. CardFanSince57 says:

    Well, I’ll be damned…
    Carioca; you clever rascal! Your skillful indictment of Tony just now dawned on me!

  24. CariocaCardinal says:

    On offense, their is one stat that sticks out to me — the stat that matters most! They have scored 54 more runs than we have (in just 2 more games).

  25. Nutlaw says:

    Edmonds traded to the Reds? Yikes. Looks like St. Louis will have to fight all of the ghosts of Cardinals past to win this race.

  26. CardFanSince57 says:

    The sad part (for us) is the fact that Jimmy Baseball is enjoying such a surprisingly fine season!

  27. Brian Walton says:

    C’mon, that is cherry picking stats. Cincy both scores more and gives up more than StL. Net is that the Reds’ run differential is 90. The Cardinals’ is 80.

    Edmonds is 40 and will soon join Springer (and Izzy) on the DL. Timing was perfect as a disruption attempt by Walt. Feels a bit desperate, though. If the Cards added Ken Griffey Jr., for example, no one would care.

  28. CariocaCardinal says:

    Brian, it is not cherry picking. I think it was already acknowledged we had the better pitching staff. Just saying they have the better offense.

  29. CariocaCardinal says:

    We prefer Wynn to Edmonds? We had a crack at him before Cincy!

  30. CardFanSince57 says:

    Brian, I share the natural bias of a true Cardinal fan. As “cherry picking” as the stats may seem to you, they are nonetheless an indisputable dose of reality which can be remedied by the continuity of our resurgent offense. You know, as well as any Cardinal fan, that a net run differential of 10 is not very comforting. Granted, Walt made a desperation move, but… As long as any “disruption” represented by Jimmy in their lineup doesn’t resemble the miserable “disruption” against us that he represented in the Brewer lineup (remember?), the immediate threat won’t be so great.

  31. Brian Walton says:

    My take is that a run differential of just 10 runs over 110 games is insignificant. One team has better pitching, the other better hitting by very close to the same difference. That is an unbiased view.

  32. CardFanSince57 says:

    Whether our views can be said to be biased or unbiased, Brian, the stats I presented “are nonetheless an indisputable dose of reality which can be remedied by the continuity of our resurgent offense”.

  33. CardFanSince57 says:

    Bottom Line…
    The reason that we are two games out is definitely not because of our starting rotation (vastly superior to the Reds), but because of a combination of inconsistent offense and, as Carioca so deftly pointed out, the manner in which our bullpen has been used. The deficiencies shall vanish and we will sweep the series if our offense continues as it has for the past couple of games…

  34. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Question is ………does Tony choose Colby to hit Leake’s change-up or Craig……Molina will bat sixth followed by Shu…………..I would have played Miles……………………

    Baker will ceremoniously walk AP every time he gets a chance……..otherwise he will temp him away.All the pressure lands on Holiday and Colby/Craig……………Molina 6th undermines both.

    Bruce is hot………..Votto can hit the curve OPO……. that wasn’t true last time they met.

    Cardinals are favored……….O/U 7.5 If they have 4 runs by the 4th…….they will win the game. If we can front them by 3 in the Forth……its ours…………………. You don’t want to see Franklin in this game.

  35. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    The Jocetty move was terribly timed…………it is too obvious and shows that he thinks it’s necessary. He is now a citizen of Cincinnati. He has undermined his own players.

  36. CardFanSince57 says:

    Talk about players and fans being undermined… You ought to hear the seething outrage being vented in Milwaukee and the anger being registered against Doug Melvin!

  37. blingboy says:

    I get off work, get in the car and on the radio they’re talking about whether we will face Jimmy Ballgame tonight, will he start in center field? What? I thought I’d lost my mind. (My wife says my mind will be the second thing to go). great move by Walt. Brian must have forgotten about Will Clark. Same thing. So sad we passed on him.

  38. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Edmonds starts……….moves Bruce back in the order…………what an idiot…………… Phillips can’t hit the curve……………………monstrous error in judgment by the Reds…………

  39. Brian Walton says:

    For every Will Clark (only aged 36 at the time) that went well, there are plenty more deals like that that didn’t work out. Edmonds was great when he was great. Now he is an injury-prone 40-year-old. I am fine he is not with St. Louis, but that doesn’t diminish all the good things he did earlier.

  40. blingboy says:

    I hope and pray he plays like a washed up 40 yr old. He has it in him to clean our clock, hope not.

  41. blingboy says:

    Walt knows how to sell tickets.

  42. crdswmn says:

    lineup–Lopez 3B, Jay RF, Pujols, Holliday LF, Rasmus CF, Molina C, Skip 2B, Carp P, Ryan SS

    I just got home. Edmonds to the Reds? Does Walt think he is going to psyche us out with that move?

  43. CardFanSince57 says:

    If Jimmy works out as well for the Reds as he has this season for the Brewers (.285), he will definitely serve as a great half-season booster (and Will Clark) for the Reds. I only hope that he doesn’t do as well against us for the Reds as he did against us for the Brewers. If he does, at least he won’t be trotting around the bases to the thunderous ovation of Cardinal fans…

  44. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    The Reds have attacked their own young players with this……..right when they were peaking…….. Edmonds will unfocus Rolens in his roll as leader…………..

    Bottom line……….Jocetty is running that show…………and if you don’t think TL could end up there next year………..give it some thought.

  45. Brian Walton says:

    Here is some data to consume, worried Cards fans:

    Jim Edmonds career line vs. Cardinals in 16 games, 61 PA: .167/.246/.370/.616.

  46. crdswmn says:

    I’m not worried. I just think it is a strange move by WJ. I agree with Westy. I think it sends the wrong signal to their players.

  47. CardFanSince57 says:

    While it is true that Jimmy Baseball had floundered during the five seasons before his one year retirement (whence most of Brian’s data is taken), he has come back this year with a very surprising vengeance.

    Lest we forget, the last time that Jimmy faced us…
    AB-11 H-4 R-3 RBI-3 HR-1 SB-2

  48. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    With out any question………if the opportunity presented itself…………..I put down the fist.

  49. CardFanSince57 says:

    As stated, if Jimmy continues his success this season with the Reds and should do to us during the next 3 days what he did the last time we saw him, at least he will be trotting the bases to the ovation of Reds’ fans (rather than our own)…

  50. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Leake is blowing oil already……….just what the doctor ordered.

  51. CardFanSince57 says:

    Well, Leake certainly made quick work of us…

  52. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    He threw nothing but strikes……… that’s not so good. No hero’s.

  53. CardFanSince57 says:

    Despite the worthless hit and the alarming towering fly by Votto, Chris still came away with a pitch count less than 10!

  54. CardFanSince57 says:

    I can see that Brendan had a rather brusque and terse refresher course on Chris’ artistic sensitivity…

    Attaboy, Matt!

  55. CardFanSince57 says:

    I hope that Colby doesn’t ground into too many more of those… damn it!

  56. CardFanSince57 says:

    I LOVE those opposite field gems by Yadier!

  57. CardFanSince57 says:

    THAT was an alarming fly, deep into centerfield, by a 40 year old man…

    Followed by ANOTHER fly by Bruce, deeper and just as alarming!

  58. CardFanSince57 says:

    Leake ain’t the only pitcher throwing strikes and beach balls…

  59. CardFanSince57 says:

    After 2, Chris has 17 pitches and Leake has 18 (both have given-up 2 hits)…

  60. CardFanSince57 says:

    Three-up and three-down, with an 8-pitch inning, Leake once again made quick work of us… damn it!

  61. Brian Walton says:

    Reference WC’s post #46:

    “..Bottom line……….Jocetty is running that show…………and if you don’t think TL could end up there next year………..give it some thought.”

    I took your advice. In fact, I asked around and heard that Rolen as the team leader went into Jocko’s office and specifically begged he get TLR… ;-)

  62. CardFanSince57 says:

    Now, Chris is starting to look even sharper…

  63. CardFanSince57 says:

    Tony and Rolen would make strange bedfellows, indeed

  64. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    This is where we need to move………….right now……………………

    If you aren’t watching the ESPN………..you missed a great moment…………..Carp took Brendan into to the tunnel and explained the facts of life after he delayed his start with the glove shenanigan…

  65. CardFanSince57 says:

    A Jon Jay table-setting special!

  66. CardFanSince57 says:

    Indeed, “I can see that Brendan had a rather brusque and terse refresher course on Chris’ artistic sensitivity…”

  67. CardFanSince57 says:

    Now, Albert adds to the table-setting! Let’s do it, Matt!

  68. CardFanSince57 says:

    All right, Matt!

  69. CardFanSince57 says:

    All right, Colby! Great hustle, Albert!

  70. CardFanSince57 says:

    Hey, hey, hey! Yadier hit it too hard for ‘em!

  71. CardFanSince57 says:

    Tell you what, Skip… You go right ahead with your velcro thing all you want!

  72. Nutlaw says:

    Oh. Hell. Yes. Six runs with no outs in the fourth. Way to make ‘em pay!

  73. CardFanSince57 says:

    Yeah, Leake has thrown several beach balls too many…

    …and the Reds are sitting-up and takin’ notice!

  74. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    most important thing is that skip was taking the sacrifice……..Matt too had a nice situational hit. That ought to be insulation against seeing Franklin……………now they need to twist the knife.

  75. CardFanSince57 says:

    Only Leake (running off the field, thinking it was the 3rd out) looked more foolish than our Brendan (wildly chasing after that “out-and-far away”

  76. crdswmn says:

    This is fun.

  77. Nutlaw says:

    Ooh. Time to wear down their bullpen.

  78. CardFanSince57 says:

    Every batter in our order has gotten at least 1 hit, except for Brendan…

  79. CardFanSince57 says:

    Was that heads-up base-running on the part of Flip, or what? Man, all of a sudeen, we’re looking really good!

  80. blingboy says:

    Oh man, beer shot out of my nose on that op field salami, I’m recovered now, sort of. Holy crap.

  81. CardFanSince57 says:

    The table is set once again for Albert!

  82. CardFanSince57 says:

    Albert just won’t quit!

    Now, let’s have some more, Matt!

  83. CariocaCardinal says:

    If going out and trying to improve your ball clu
    b down the stretch is going to upset other players (without weakening it a la Mo) then those players aren’t winners anyway and you probably dont have a chance down the stretch in any case.

  84. CardFanSince57 says:

    Matt is now only 2 for 3: He’s going into a slump…

  85. crdswmn says:

    I guess it had to end sooner or later.

  86. BirdTalk50 says:

    Man! Are these boys hot tonight or what?!! Bam, bam, bam one after another…yes it is too good to be true! Seven runs in one inning!

  87. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Question is………….why the shift against Holiday………….he goes there often………..with no one on maybe………… it had to do with a pitch setup…………but in all honesty, that’s allot for a kid to think about in a game like this. He is getting some experience…………………

    Looking at the faces in the crowd……………….Walter J just is just starting to realize what he did.

  88. CardFanSince57 says:

    I absolutely love how the wind has been taken out of the sails of all those bandwagon fans! They’ve been frothing at the mouth for several days, waiting for this series, thinking that they would bury us.

  89. CardFanSince57 says:

    What happened to our fielders? Damn! That DP was absolutely BEAUTIFUL!

  90. BirdTalk50 says:

    I know I am frothing! I almost swallowed my tonsils! What a play!

  91. CardFanSince57 says:

    And to crown the Reds’ demoralizing at bat, Chris strikes out their newest player!

  92. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    Notice the look on Ryan’s face……………… he has had a game to remember. Bite marks all over his body……………. If ESPN has a replay……..be sure to watch after the 1st……..Carp leads him into the tunnel……………….and comes out 2minutes late………Brendan 5 steps behind so as not to provoke.. Guy is 6’6 with an attitude.

  93. CardFanSince57 says:

    Skip is ow the 4th of our batters to go 2 for 3 tonight…

  94. crdswmn says:

    I guess they were worn out from the last inning.

  95. CardFanSince57 says:

    We will definitely have to give our hitting pitcher credit for a near-homer… He’s already doing sufficient damage to ‘em on the mound…

  96. CardFanSince57 says:

    53 pitches after 5 innings! Chris definitely could… go… all… the… way!

  97. CardFanSince57 says:

    That was a very quick out, Brendan! Not very impressive, boy…

  98. BirdTalk50 says:

    Carp is pitching a fantastic game! Holly guano! Let’s hope he can keep up his stamina.

  99. WestCoastbirdWatcher says:

    This series is a long way from being over. Garcia has to hold against the snap back……..he is young. I don’t see him going 4………….. remains to be seen if Tony lets him take on as much water as Leake…………………not a pun…………..and yet …..it works nicely.

    I will go over too Reno tomorrow and sniff around………………….

  100. CardFanSince57 says:

    For the past several games, our offense has shown no tendency to slow-down. Even if Jaime has trubs n’ probs tomorrow, methinks the Reds will have even more with us…

  101. CardFanSince57 says:

    What a beautiful strike-out!

  102. CardFanSince57 says:

    Uh, oh! Votto did what Votto does… Now, we gotta look out for this Rolen character…

  103. crdswmn says:

    We need to stay out of the bullpen. I hope Chris can go 8 or 9.

  104. CardFanSince57 says:

    No problem; if Chris doesn’t strike ‘em out, he’ll get em’ to ground out…

  105. blingboy says:

    Walt may not have done them any harm, Westy. Could be just Carp doing what he does, and Leake running out of gas like a kid who was a school boy last year.

    Let’s see how demoralized they look tomorrow against our own rookie who may be wearing down a bit.

    Have fun in Reno. Don’t get sidetracked.

  106. CardFanSince57 says:

    The first bopper is walked and the second and third are each struckout… C’mon Yadier; give us another opposite field single and move Albert over…

  107. CardFanSince57 says:

    That Fisher character now has 5 strikeouts…

  108. CardFanSince57 says:

    You’re right, blingboy… It ain’t that Jimmy ain’t makin’ contact: it’s that he’s run up against a red hot Chris…

  109. blingboy says:

    Carp floated a couple 90 mph fastballs in there high. Too high luckily.

  110. CardFanSince57 says:

    Hell, with a 3-hitter, Chris has dominated them all…

  111. CardFanSince57 says:

    I spoke too soon and you are right again, blingboy… Chris is getting sloppy and allowing ‘em to get under…

  112. blingboy says:

    Carp isn’t gonna like that throw by Brendan.

    Duncan out. Carp said he’s fine. (He’d been kinda rubbing his leg) Having location problems now. Just put one right down the middle. Guy took it.

  113. CardFanSince57 says:

    Heads-up fielding by Albert… Flip would have made himself look really, really bad…

  114. blingboy says:

    Hawk warming up 57.

    Flip made crappy throw, Albert miraculously kept his toe on bag while laying flat on the ground with the ball in his glove somehow.

  115. BirdTalk50 says:

    You’re hot tonight Al Way to get um out! You go!

  116. blingboy says:

    You got it on TV tonight 57?

  117. blingboy says:

    Grounder went right past Brendan, he hardly moved???? What was that??

  118. CardFanSince57 says:

    Chris is mad as Hell! Methinks that he ain’t tired, so much as he is frustrated at himself…

  119. BirdTalk50 says:

    Anyone want to translate what Carp just said?

  120. CardFanSince57 says:

    Yeah, blingboy: In all it’s ESPN glory! I’m a real happy cowboy!

  121. CardFanSince57 says:

    Chris characteristically gets tougher in the late innings. And I’m thinking he is angry at Brendan and frustrated with himself for allowing Brendan to get under his skin…

  122. crdswmn says:

    Chris is POed at Brendan.

  123. CardFanSince57 says:

    5 hits and 2 ER in 7 innings: Another quality start, any way you slice it…

  124. blingboy says:

    C’mon salami boy

  125. CardFanSince57 says:

    I sure like seeing all of Brendan’s teammates showin’ him some love…

  126. blingboy says:

    I missed some of the first inning, what did Brendan do?

  127. CardFanSince57 says:

    Methinks Chris is out of the game, not because of fatigue, but because of anger and frustration…

  128. CardFanSince57 says:

    Brendan called time, in order to get a fresh glove and it upset Chris’ timing…

  129. crdswmn says:

    This is the scary time.

  130. CardFanSince57 says:

    Poor Brendan is the only one of our batters to go “Oh, for…!” I am certain that Chris put him into a funk and temporary psychological trick bag…

  131. CardFanSince57 says:

    A glance at Miller’s recently inflated ERA gives us good reason for concern…

  132. CardFanSince57 says:

    Doncha know that Miller is very closely mindin’ his P’s and Q’s…

  133. CardFanSince57 says:

    Imagine facing Rolen and Edmunds, as Reds, back-to-back!

  134. crdswmn says:

    He got Votto. That was the one that worried me.

  135. Brian Walton says:

    Edmonds ends his first day with the Reds 0-for-4.

  136. CardFanSince57 says:

    Jon Jay needs to join tonight’s 2 for 4 Club…

  137. CardFanSince57 says:

    All RIGHT! Now, the table is set yet AGAIN for Albert!

  138. crdswmn says:

    This is the REAL scary time.

  139. CardFanSince57 says:

    He’s he best hitter we could ever have, and yet he is the King of GIDP! What a paradox!

  140. CardFanSince57 says:

    You know that your offense is doing great when 5 of your batters have gone 2 for 4 (and one of the small-ballers among them has hit a Grand Salami)…

  141. CardFanSince57 says:

    My choice for turning off the lights is the guy with a 1.88 ERA…

  142. crdswmn says:

    Yes but they scored all their runs in one inning. They need to do better than that because they are not always going to get a pitcher having a bad day.

  143. CardFanSince57 says:

    When you don’t throw down and induce the grounders, those damned fly balls will kill you!

  144. crdswmn says:

    Hernandez was hot tonight. The only Red who was.

  145. CardFanSince57 says:

    The Cardinals have definitely made a statement tonight. The Reds can come back tomorrow, expecting to chase our beloved Jaime in less than 5, but they’ve got a fired-up offense to contend with (not to mention our Ace, as well as that fired-up offense, to finish them off on Wednesday)…

  146. crdswmn says:

    Matt back up to .300, Albert .313, Jon .375 and Yadi .252.

  147. crdswmn says:

    Did anybody watching the ESPN broadcast see Carp getting into Brendan’s face after the 1st inning? FSM didn’t show it. I am hearing different versions. Surely Carp wasn’t aware the cameras were on him.

  148. blingboy says:

    Brendan had kind of a rough game. He should be used to getting a talking to though.

    I’ve heard some negative comments about us not doing anything against their pen for 5 innings. Offensive inconsistancy is something we have to live with. Just win, baby.

    Jaime has his work cut out for him to match the starting performances we’ve seen these last three games.

    Meanwhile, there is the question of what exactly to do with Lohse. I await Westy’s report from the scene.

  149. Brian Walton says:

    Yes, crdswmn, I saw the ESPN footage. After they returned to the dugout, Carp called Ryan down the steps into the passageway. The camera could only catch Ryan who was saying nothing as Carp apparently gave him a lecture that I would guess went 10-15 seconds. Then the two returned to the dugout.

  150. crdswmn says:

    Thanks Brian. From what I heard from others it sounded like a verbal sparring match. I don’t see the point of ESPN showing that, but that is the kind of thing I expect from them.

    BB-Reds fans were crowing about their bullpen shutting us down. They did not mention the fact that Carp shut down their “best offense in baseball” for 6 innings. Selective memory.

  151. CariocaCardinal says:

    No verbal sparring match that I saw — it looked like a pretty one way conversation. To that end, I actually give Brendon propos for keeping his trap shut (rather he was right or wrong). Today’s egos dont usually allow for guys to stay quiet.

  152. crdswmn says:

    On another note, there was an article by Joe Strauss quoting some very nasty comments from Brandon Phillips to a reporter about the Cardinals. They were in my opinion whiny and immature. A professional baseball player has no business acting like that in public. Very classless. Here is the link. http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/artic­le_7f­62c02­f-696­5-5c1­c-bd9­1-7fd­c5e9a­51e5.html

  153. crdswmn says:

    The link didn’t work but you can find the article by clicking on the game story “Schumacker Slams Reds in Series Opener”

  154. CardFanSince57 says:

    (in the dugout, 7th inning, after Chris’ 2nd angry explosion towards Brendan; shouting at him in the field)

    August 9th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
    “I sure like seeing all of Brendan’s teammates showin’ him some love…”

    Albert was first of several to come by and give Brendan an affectionate and reassuring pat…

  155. CardFanSince57 says:

    blingboy says:
    August 9th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
    I missed some of the first inning, what did Brendan do?

    CardFanSince57 says:
    August 9th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
    Brendan called time, in order to get a fresh glove and it upset Chris’ timing…

  156. CardFanSince57 says:

    ENCOURAGING REMINDERS CONCERNING JAIME GARCIA…
    Fresh in our memory are Jaime’s past few starts, in which inflated his ERA all the way up to 2.53! ;) Still in our doubting talk, we speak of the fact that he can never seem to pitch past the sixth inning. On the other hand, we hear nothing but great things about Johnny Cueto (3.24 ERA), despite the fact that he has averaged only 8 pitches more per game than Jaime! While the BAA of both pitchers is comparable (.245 for Jaime and .250 for Cueto), Cueto is especially leaky when it comes to right-handed batters (.274)! What is more, Cueto gives-up nearly twice as many homers than Jaime!

  157. CariocaCardinal says:

    Not sure what pitching 8 more pitches to game has to do with it. How many innings a game does Cueto average? You can throw an effective 84 pitches a game or an ineffective 92 a game.

  158. CardFanSince57 says:

    You’re entirely right, Carioca. My thought was merely to show how favorable that our Jaime compares to Cueto (less runs and less homers per start, better against right-handed hitters).

  159. crdswmn says:

    I’m still worried about Jaime. The Cards are going to have to score early and often to win this one I think.

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