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	<title>Comments on: The Cardinals organization roster matrix: Pre-camp update</title>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/24/the-cardinals-organization-roster-matrix-pre-camp-update/#comment-10333</link>
		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 17:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jumbo takes the gratuitous swipe while refusing to engage in meaningful debate of the issue (Cruz&#039;s hitting last year).   Why am I not surprised.</description>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/24/the-cardinals-organization-roster-matrix-pre-camp-update/#comment-10328</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its nice to have Kary Boohner back with the Springfield paper.  There is not such good coverage out of Palm Beach, unsurprising given all the baseball in S. Florida.   
The idea of splitting up Cruz (to PB) and Hill, so the latter can get more play at AA is interesting and non-traditional problem solving.  Some years ago, the Cards had more focus on winnowing out minor leaguers, whereas now there is more experimentation about finding their highest potentials.   Cruz did not hit well at AA last year (despite a claim otherwise), so Arnoldi can take the backstep. 
Hill did some catching during his four years at jucos and S A Austin.  He ended up a slugging firstbaseman, but undersized and in this respect a bit like John Gall, who plateaued at AAA.   Undersized 1Bmen or LFs are for the Cards like Maytag repairmen, with Pujols and Holliday blocking their road ahead.  This can concentrate Hill&#039;s mind.   If he really wants to reach the majors, he may have to focus behind the plate and improve his defense there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its nice to have Kary Boohner back with the Springfield paper.  There is not such good coverage out of Palm Beach, unsurprising given all the baseball in S. Florida.<br />
The idea of splitting up Cruz (to PB) and Hill, so the latter can get more play at AA is interesting and non-traditional problem solving.  Some years ago, the Cards had more focus on winnowing out minor leaguers, whereas now there is more experimentation about finding their highest potentials.   Cruz did not hit well at AA last year (despite a claim otherwise), so Arnoldi can take the backstep.<br />
Hill did some catching during his four years at jucos and S A Austin.  He ended up a slugging firstbaseman, but undersized and in this respect a bit like John Gall, who plateaued at AAA.   Undersized 1Bmen or LFs are for the Cards like Maytag repairmen, with Pujols and Holliday blocking their road ahead.  This can concentrate Hill&#8217;s mind.   If he really wants to reach the majors, he may have to focus behind the plate and improve his defense there.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/24/the-cardinals-organization-roster-matrix-pre-camp-update/#comment-10325</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, thanks for the comments. All rosters you are reading about are preliminary at this point and may change up until Thursday. Other than making the MLB roster current, the matrix above still pretty much reflects how things looked a month ago (minus all the releases). Even so, it isn&#039;t all that far off in many cases. 

My understanding is that Luna is listed as an outfielder who may also see time at second base. My assumption is that his infield defense is not good enough to warrant a full-time shift.

Cruz catching full-time at Palm Beach is an interesting move.</description>
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<p>My understanding is that Luna is listed as an outfielder who may also see time at second base. My assumption is that his infield defense is not good enough to warrant a full-time shift.</p>
<p>Cruz catching full-time at Palm Beach is an interesting move.</p>
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		<title>By: jonseals</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/24/the-cardinals-organization-roster-matrix-pre-camp-update/#comment-10322</link>
		<dc:creator>jonseals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty much answered two of my questions here:

http://www.news-leader.com/article/20100403/SPORTS02/4030375/-1/BLOGS01/Springfield+Cardinals+set+roster

Memphis outfield isn&#039;t so crowded with Stavi going up and Jones in Springfield.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much answered two of my questions here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.news-leader.com/article/20100403/SPORTS02/4030375/-1/BLOGS01/Springfield+Cardinals+set+roster" rel="nofollow">http://www.news-leader.com/article/20100403/SPORTS02/4030375/-1/BLOGS01/Springfield+Cardinals+set+roster</a></p>
<p>Memphis outfield isn&#8217;t so crowded with Stavi going up and Jones in Springfield.</p>
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		<title>By: jonseals</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/24/the-cardinals-organization-roster-matrix-pre-camp-update/#comment-10320</link>
		<dc:creator>jonseals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 14:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find myself staring at this roster matrix for much more time than I care to admit. Thank you so much for doing this.

Any idea how the outfield situation at Memphis is going to play out? Does Daryl Jones really start the season in Springfield?

Also, I thought they shifted Aaron Luna to second base a couple of years ago. Is he still playing some left field?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find myself staring at this roster matrix for much more time than I care to admit. Thank you so much for doing this.</p>
<p>Any idea how the outfield situation at Memphis is going to play out? Does Daryl Jones really start the season in Springfield?</p>
<p>Also, I thought they shifted Aaron Luna to second base a couple of years ago. Is he still playing some left field?</p>
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		<title>By: Cardinals Minor League Spring Training Notebook: 03/26 &#124; The Cardinal Nation blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cardinals Minor League Spring Training Notebook: 03/26 &#124; The Cardinal Nation blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Roster Matrix is up to date on all players, though team assignments will not be changed until the full-season rosters are finalized around April 4. 287 players are currently under contract. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/24/the-cardinals-organization-roster-matrix-pre-camp-update/#comment-9732</link>
		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe someday Brian will post an article about a Cardinal that likes classical music so we would have an excuse to discuss it for a while.</description>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the alien archeologists start a dig on this planet in a few million years, they&#039;re bound to just cease their excavation after they unearth an 8 track tape player.  At that point they will recognize the turning point that signaled the decline of our civilization and the end to meaningful evolution.

Heitor Villa Lobos  (pronounced Lobosch) was a remarkable man.  He wrote choral music for thousands of voices that he placed on hill sides with hundreds of orchestral musician on the next.  Try u=tube.  Look for the Bachianas no 5, or 10 is good too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the alien archeologists start a dig on this planet in a few million years, they&#8217;re bound to just cease their excavation after they unearth an 8 track tape player.  At that point they will recognize the turning point that signaled the decline of our civilization and the end to meaningful evolution.</p>
<p>Heitor Villa Lobos  (pronounced Lobosch) was a remarkable man.  He wrote choral music for thousands of voices that he placed on hill sides with hundreds of orchestral musician on the next.  Try u=tube.  Look for the Bachianas no 5, or 10 is good too.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 04:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he shines, I&#039;ll have to catch a game or two this year, either here or down the road.  250 miles is nothing for a chance to see a couple of those throws.

Westy, I&#039;ve been meaning to thank you for mentioning Villa-Lobos.  I went digging through some stuff to find a recording I used to like a long time ago.  Finally found it, &#039;Forest of the Amazon&#039;, but it&#039;s on a cassette and I haven&#039;t had a cassette player in years, drat. I also found Herb Albert and the Tiajuana Brass on an 8 Track tape. I might sell that on e-bay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he shines, I&#8217;ll have to catch a game or two this year, either here or down the road.  250 miles is nothing for a chance to see a couple of those throws.</p>
<p>Westy, I&#8217;ve been meaning to thank you for mentioning Villa-Lobos.  I went digging through some stuff to find a recording I used to like a long time ago.  Finally found it, &#8216;Forest of the Amazon&#8217;, but it&#8217;s on a cassette and I haven&#8217;t had a cassette player in years, drat. I also found Herb Albert and the Tiajuana Brass on an 8 Track tape. I might sell that on e-bay.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/24/the-cardinals-organization-roster-matrix-pre-camp-update/#comment-9729</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 04:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/77C4EC186CC50853862576DB0014C38A?OpenDocument

This is truly satisfying.  The hitting coach just has him go goofy to interrupt his self image and how it applies to his hitting aspirations and pitch selections.  These things  will fade and change as pitching adjusts to it, but he will have excepted change and his ability to adapt.  Bingo.  The guy has tremendous hand to eye, but now he doesn&#039;t need to overcome Hal, with Tony&#039;s lack of involvement thrown in............I hope he stays healthy.</description>
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<p>This is truly satisfying.  The hitting coach just has him go goofy to interrupt his self image and how it applies to his hitting aspirations and pitch selections.  These things  will fade and change as pitching adjusts to it, but he will have excepted change and his ability to adapt.  Bingo.  The guy has tremendous hand to eye, but now he doesn&#8217;t need to overcome Hal, with Tony&#8217;s lack of involvement thrown in&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I hope he stays healthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He played last year at 17 and perhaps suffers a bit from having been oversold. The jury is still out.</description>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read where DeLaCruz is the biggest latin teen bonus guy we have.  I thought he stunk up the joint last year.  I see him on the matrix, but presumably won&#039;t do a second year at GCL.  What&#039;s up with him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read where DeLaCruz is the biggest latin teen bonus guy we have.  I thought he stunk up the joint last year.  I see him on the matrix, but presumably won&#8217;t do a second year at GCL.  What&#8217;s up with him?</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that is his real strength BB.  He is embattled on so many fronts, he probably has just retreated into &quot;the Zone&quot;.   If he isn&#039;t clear, he&#039;s not there.................... I&#039;m noticing that Tony may have found someone to relate to on hitting matters.  He has previously just stayed out of it.  I think that&#039;s good that he can find input and feedback on his hitters now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that is his real strength BB.  He is embattled on so many fronts, he probably has just retreated into &#8220;the Zone&#8221;.   If he isn&#8217;t clear, he&#8217;s not there&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. I&#8217;m noticing that Tony may have found someone to relate to on hitting matters.  He has previously just stayed out of it.  I think that&#8217;s good that he can find input and feedback on his hitters now.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully MM knows all about emotional clarity and can teach it.  I want to see moon shots all up and down the lineup this year.  Make the ball get small as they say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully MM knows all about emotional clarity and can teach it.  I want to see moon shots all up and down the lineup this year.  Make the ball get small as they say.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice pictures BB.  The Rasmus high leg kick is just a timing and body position drill.........I would think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice pictures BB.  The Rasmus high leg kick is just a timing and body position drill&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I would think.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is an elemental logician.   

The most difficult part of hitting it seems is emotional clarity.  You have to have a tactical purposefulness that overrides all of the ego distraction.   I think you know that was Colby&#039;s greatest challenge last year.  You never have to give up your desire to express power, but sometimes it mustn&#039;t be your focus.    Utley, by just staying short and on balance discovered some real flaws in the way he was being pitched to in last years playoffs.  He is not looking for that end result, but by god if your going to center that, or hang one there, he will show you the error of your ways.  He will use all fields, and as a result if you try to take that away, better have a better plan than LA or NY.................................. Albert Pujols&#039; big funk was predominately fueled by his emotional need to crush something.  It just spun him open every time.  To be honest, that is a classic addiction to the endorphin cascade that is created by maximum leverage and recognition of crowd reaction on many sensory inputs. .................. I would be a junkie myself if I tasted one of those effortless moon shots....................... that&#039;s why I don&#039;t hang out with users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is an elemental logician.   </p>
<p>The most difficult part of hitting it seems is emotional clarity.  You have to have a tactical purposefulness that overrides all of the ego distraction.   I think you know that was Colby&#8217;s greatest challenge last year.  You never have to give up your desire to express power, but sometimes it mustn&#8217;t be your focus.    Utley, by just staying short and on balance discovered some real flaws in the way he was being pitched to in last years playoffs.  He is not looking for that end result, but by god if your going to center that, or hang one there, he will show you the error of your ways.  He will use all fields, and as a result if you try to take that away, better have a better plan than LA or NY&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Albert Pujols&#8217; big funk was predominately fueled by his emotional need to crush something.  It just spun him open every time.  To be honest, that is a classic addiction to the endorphin cascade that is created by maximum leverage and recognition of crowd reaction on many sensory inputs. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; I would be a junkie myself if I tasted one of those effortless moon shots&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. that&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t hang out with users.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On that link above to the ST photos, if you go to the bottom and click go to page 1, the last picture on the page shows Franklin and Albert with a really really big rifle with a really big scope.  It would be nice for Brian&#039;s Guns article.  That page also has a nice shot with Mac suited up sitting there posing for his ST studio photo.  There are a few of Mac working with Colby  prior to ST where Colby looks about 16.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On that link above to the ST photos, if you go to the bottom and click go to page 1, the last picture on the page shows Franklin and Albert with a really really big rifle with a really big scope.  It would be nice for Brian&#8217;s Guns article.  That page also has a nice shot with Mac suited up sitting there posing for his ST studio photo.  There are a few of Mac working with Colby  prior to ST where Colby looks about 16.</p>
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		<title>By: RCWarrior1</title>
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		<dc:creator>RCWarrior1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats one of those odd combinations, lefty thrower who bats right handed.  I would think Albert  would have him swinging it from the left side before all is said and done.  There are some good pics on stltoday of little pujols&#039; swing.   

 You could do some serious teaching just from his finish, front foot closed, back side knee moving towards his front knee, backside rotation, right elbow in tight on his hip(so he can stay inside the ball and go the other way, your favorite WC),  hitting behind a firm front side,   liitle lean over the plate but not leaning back (so he will hit more line drives).  I had my players come down to my room and take a look at his pics.  Albert is one heck of a hitting instructor it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats one of those odd combinations, lefty thrower who bats right handed.  I would think Albert  would have him swinging it from the left side before all is said and done.  There are some good pics on stltoday of little pujols&#8217; swing.   </p>
<p> You could do some serious teaching just from his finish, front foot closed, back side knee moving towards his front knee, backside rotation, right elbow in tight on his hip(so he can stay inside the ball and go the other way, your favorite WC),  hitting behind a firm front side,   liitle lean over the plate but not leaning back (so he will hit more line drives).  I had my players come down to my room and take a look at his pics.  Albert is one heck of a hitting instructor it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids for real.  I know a famous old rightie with hall of fame stuff that has faced him.  Even after putting some serious screwgy on a few pitches, he never flinched the story goes.   He is throwing left batting right.  He won&#039;t be as big as pop so I go ahead and let him switch hit.  His lefty cut is just as good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids for real.  I know a famous old rightie with hall of fame stuff that has faced him.  Even after putting some serious screwgy on a few pitches, he never flinched the story goes.   He is throwing left batting right.  He won&#8217;t be as big as pop so I go ahead and let him switch hit.  His lefty cut is just as good.</p>
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		<title>By: RCWarrior1</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/24/the-cardinals-organization-roster-matrix-pre-camp-update/#comment-9595</link>
		<dc:creator>RCWarrior1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hows about the nice swing on young Albert.  Wow!  I guess when your pops is the best hitter on the planet you can&#039;t help but be real good yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hows about the nice swing on young Albert.  Wow!  I guess when your pops is the best hitter on the planet you can&#8217;t help but be real good yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/24/the-cardinals-organization-roster-matrix-pre-camp-update/#comment-9594</link>
		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot the link for the ST photos

http://www.cardsclubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23238&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;start=75&amp;sid=ea2d68fbf6ddbb9d0e7ca98fd4a8b1b9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot the link for the ST photos</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cardsclubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23238&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;start=75&amp;sid=ea2d68fbf6ddbb9d0e7ca98fd4a8b1b9" rel="nofollow">http://www.cardsclubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23238&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;start=75&amp;sid=ea2d68fbf6ddbb9d0e7ca98fd4a8b1b9</a></p>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It most likely makes a difference in their per diem rate -- though can&#039;t imagine the Cards quibbling over a few hundred dollars.</description>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would look kind of clunky on their resumes.

Here are some really nice photos from ST.  Be sure to scroll down after the first bunch to get to some more.  Two must see photos are Brendan Ryan in street clothes with hair and his glasses, and Big Mac taking a cut with the ball right on the sweet spot.  That last, if he&#039;d been suited up, OMG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would look kind of clunky on their resumes.</p>
<p>Here are some really nice photos from ST.  Be sure to scroll down after the first bunch to get to some more.  Two must see photos are Brendan Ryan in street clothes with hair and his glasses, and Big Mac taking a cut with the ball right on the sweet spot.  That last, if he&#8217;d been suited up, OMG.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification. I think for purposes of the matrix, I will ignore the temptation to create a new category called &quot;late invitees to major league camp who are lockering in the major league clubhouse, wearing major league uniforms with assigned major league numbers and working out with the major leaguers but are really only considered early invitees to minor league camp and therefore are not officially classified as non-roster invitees&quot;.  ;-)

To someone, somewhere, this distinction has relevance. I can assure you that after listening to Shelby Miller, when they told him of his invite, they either left out all the fine print and caveats or he didn&#039;t hear them. He heard he received an invite to major league camp.

I suspect the reality is that they told these kids to soak up the environment for a couple of weeks but be ready to head over to minor league camp as soon as it opens. Of course, there are a bunch of &quot;official, no doubt about it NRIs&quot; and guys on the 40-man as well who are in the major league camp now but are in the same boat, with no legitimate change to make the major league roster this spring. 

57 players is a lot, especially on a team where most of the roster positions are pretty well defined. They are needed to help soak up some of the early innings until the main guys work up to full readiness. Even after cuts, minor leaguers are often called over to the major league games as late-inning fill-ins. It is one of the nice advantages of having the two camps together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification. I think for purposes of the matrix, I will ignore the temptation to create a new category called &#8220;late invitees to major league camp who are lockering in the major league clubhouse, wearing major league uniforms with assigned major league numbers and working out with the major leaguers but are really only considered early invitees to minor league camp and therefore are not officially classified as non-roster invitees&#8221;.  <img src='http://thecardinalnationblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To someone, somewhere, this distinction has relevance. I can assure you that after listening to Shelby Miller, when they told him of his invite, they either left out all the fine print and caveats or he didn&#8217;t hear them. He heard he received an invite to major league camp.</p>
<p>I suspect the reality is that they told these kids to soak up the environment for a couple of weeks but be ready to head over to minor league camp as soon as it opens. Of course, there are a bunch of &#8220;official, no doubt about it NRIs&#8221; and guys on the 40-man as well who are in the major league camp now but are in the same boat, with no legitimate change to make the major league roster this spring. </p>
<p>57 players is a lot, especially on a team where most of the roster positions are pretty well defined. They are needed to help soak up some of the early innings until the main guys work up to full readiness. Even after cuts, minor leaguers are often called over to the major league games as late-inning fill-ins. It is one of the nice advantages of having the two camps together.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is Strauss and Goold from the P-D saying they are not NRI&#039;s, sorry guys I can&#039;t find the source I first read, which had more deatail.

&quot;Miller and lefty Sam Freeman are being added to the workouts as early invitees, not officially non-roster invitees. &quot;

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/39FD40E3B3CB5C76862576D300102983?OpenDocument</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is Strauss and Goold from the P-D saying they are not NRI&#8217;s, sorry guys I can&#8217;t find the source I first read, which had more deatail.</p>
<p>&#8220;Miller and lefty Sam Freeman are being added to the workouts as early invitees, not officially non-roster invitees. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/39FD40E3B3CB5C76862576D300102983?OpenDocument" rel="nofollow">http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/39FD40E3B3CB5C76862576D300102983?OpenDocument</a></p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/24/the-cardinals-organization-roster-matrix-pre-camp-update/#comment-9588</link>
		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is M. Leach saying they are not NRI&#039;s.  I will look for the article where I first read it.

 &quot;The Cardinals will bring in top Draft pick Shelby Miller and Minor League left-hander Sam Freeman tomorrow. Technically they are not non-roster invitees.....&quot;

 http://yourenotagolfer.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/02/monday_camp_tidbits_miller_lug.html?partnerId=rss_stl&amp;source=rss_teams_St._Louis_Cardinals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is M. Leach saying they are not NRI&#8217;s.  I will look for the article where I first read it.</p>
<p> &#8220;The Cardinals will bring in top Draft pick Shelby Miller and Minor League left-hander Sam Freeman tomorrow. Technically they are not non-roster invitees&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p> <a href="http://yourenotagolfer.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/02/monday_camp_tidbits_miller_lug.html?partnerId=rss_stl&amp;source=rss_teams_St._Louis_Cardinals" rel="nofollow">http://yourenotagolfer.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/02/monday_camp_tidbits_miller_lug.html?partnerId=rss_stl&amp;source=rss_teams_St._Louis_Cardinals</a></p>
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		<title>By: ArRedbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArRedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t mean to assume where blingboy got that info.
Perhaps is comes from D. Goold who on 2/22/10 wrote
(regarding Miller &amp; Freeman)
they will ... &quot;join the major-league camp Tuesday as early invitees, a club official said.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t mean to assume where blingboy got that info.<br />
Perhaps is comes from D. Goold who on 2/22/10 wrote<br />
(regarding Miller &amp; Freeman)<br />
they will &#8230; &#8220;join the major-league camp Tuesday as early invitees, a club official said.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bb, where did you see that, please?</description>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to split hairs, but I read where Miller and Freeman are not non-roster invitees to major league camp, but rather they are classified as early invitees to minor league camp, which hasn&#039;t started yet.  What the significance of that is beats me, but a point was made of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to split hairs, but I read where Miller and Freeman are not non-roster invitees to major league camp, but rather they are classified as early invitees to minor league camp, which hasn&#8217;t started yet.  What the significance of that is beats me, but a point was made of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Twizard. 

You can see Shelby Miller listed first under SPs at Quad Cities. Freeman is listed first under Relievers at Springfield. Those are the rosters at which they ended last season (and probably where they will return to start 2010 as well).

Both names are &lt;em&gt;in italics&lt;/em&gt; because they are non-roster invitees to major league camp. 

(As a tip, you can hit CTRL + F keys to get a search box to find names quicker. With so many entries, it can be a bit unwieldy at times.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Twizard. </p>
<p>You can see Shelby Miller listed first under SPs at Quad Cities. Freeman is listed first under Relievers at Springfield. Those are the rosters at which they ended last season (and probably where they will return to start 2010 as well).</p>
<p>Both names are <em>in italics</em> because they are non-roster invitees to major league camp. </p>
<p>(As a tip, you can hit CTRL + F keys to get a search box to find names quicker. With so many entries, it can be a bit unwieldy at times.)</p>
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