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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/23/baseball-guns-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-9506</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great off-season.   We outbid 29 other teams for Holliday.  Who would have thunk it.   Dropped some money on a good old boy, Penny.   

I even like the way we re-hired Mitchell Page to instruct hitters at Quad Cities.  If he was good enough to teach in the majors, Page is good enough for low A ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great off-season.   We outbid 29 other teams for Holliday.  Who would have thunk it.   Dropped some money on a good old boy, Penny.   </p>
<p>I even like the way we re-hired Mitchell Page to instruct hitters at Quad Cities.  If he was good enough to teach in the majors, Page is good enough for low A ball.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/23/baseball-guns-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-9505</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can certainly get behind the idea of cops protecting precious Big Mac.  

I am happy Mac is back and the team is mustering down south.   Albert says its a strong team and JS cannot disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can certainly get behind the idea of cops protecting precious Big Mac.  </p>
<p>I am happy Mac is back and the team is mustering down south.   Albert says its a strong team and JS cannot disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/23/baseball-guns-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-9504</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to add the link above. Big Mac and little cop, presumably to protect him from the media. Check again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to add the link above. Big Mac and little cop, presumably to protect him from the media. Check again.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/23/baseball-guns-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-9503</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed the joke, sorry.   IMO, teams should (and presumably do) have some armed security guards for the twin and serious purposes of protecting fans and their employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed the joke, sorry.   IMO, teams should (and presumably do) have some armed security guards for the twin and serious purposes of protecting fans and their employees.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/23/baseball-guns-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-9502</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jumbo said....

&quot;Teams should have armed security guards for protecting the Clubhouse and the Ballpark.&quot;

Jumbo should have said...

&quot;Teams should have armed security guards for protecting the Clubhouse, the Ballpark and Mark McGwire.&quot;  ;-)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/47629226@N06/4376220757&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jumbo said&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Teams should have armed security guards for protecting the Clubhouse and the Ballpark.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jumbo should have said&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Teams should have armed security guards for protecting the Clubhouse, the Ballpark and Mark McGwire.&#8221;  <img src='http://thecardinalnationblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/47629226@N06/4376220757" rel="nofollow">link</a></p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/23/baseball-guns-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-9501</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems like MLB and the Union making sure the players are informed, no guns on team property.   If a few players thought they could handle their firearms in the Clubhouse, now they are advised, they cannot do so.  
Players are celebs and there are some kooks out there.  I can understand some players keeping a gun at home, for protection against hostile intruders.  
Teams should have armed security guards for protecting the Clubhouse and the Ballpark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems like MLB and the Union making sure the players are informed, no guns on team property.   If a few players thought they could handle their firearms in the Clubhouse, now they are advised, they cannot do so.<br />
Players are celebs and there are some kooks out there.  I can understand some players keeping a gun at home, for protection against hostile intruders.<br />
Teams should have armed security guards for protecting the Clubhouse and the Ballpark.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its really a definition of &quot;Club House&quot; as RC pointed out.  Players spend allot of down time there, especially pitchers.  I would guess a number of players keep a piece in there car for obvious reasons.  Especially players with family and young children.  St Louis is hardly one of the hostile zones in the baseball world.................................  A down side.  Half the fools on this team spend their off time, especially late night, in the digital domain.  To suggest that this isn&#039;t a violent and hostile environment would be naive.  With the stress that these guys fined themselves in often enough, seems wise to have a few rules....................................  An aside on this topic.  I&#039;m seeing a direct correlation between video habits and competitive drive on a few ball clubs.  These modern games are very engrossing and I would guess as a result that adrenal fatigue in starting to show in the baseball environment.  I&#039;ve run a few experiments that show a very negative result.  It might be better than carousing the groupie bars, but aside from STD&#039;s that isn&#039;t as debilitating as 3 or 4 late night hours of shooting at people and being shot at.  Frankie is one of the heavies in that domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its really a definition of &#8220;Club House&#8221; as RC pointed out.  Players spend allot of down time there, especially pitchers.  I would guess a number of players keep a piece in there car for obvious reasons.  Especially players with family and young children.  St Louis is hardly one of the hostile zones in the baseball world&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;  A down side.  Half the fools on this team spend their off time, especially late night, in the digital domain.  To suggest that this isn&#8217;t a violent and hostile environment would be naive.  With the stress that these guys fined themselves in often enough, seems wise to have a few rules&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;  An aside on this topic.  I&#8217;m seeing a direct correlation between video habits and competitive drive on a few ball clubs.  These modern games are very engrossing and I would guess as a result that adrenal fatigue in starting to show in the baseball environment.  I&#8217;ve run a few experiments that show a very negative result.  It might be better than carousing the groupie bars, but aside from STD&#8217;s that isn&#8217;t as debilitating as 3 or 4 late night hours of shooting at people and being shot at.  Frankie is one of the heavies in that domain.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/23/baseball-guns-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-9494</link>
		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will amend my previous post, the obsessives are kinda scary too.  Seems like there might be some kind of issue there somewhere that maybe shouldn&#039;t mix with firearms, shouldn&#039;t mix with firearms in the workplace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will amend my previous post, the obsessives are kinda scary too.  Seems like there might be some kind of issue there somewhere that maybe shouldn&#8217;t mix with firearms, shouldn&#8217;t mix with firearms in the workplace.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bb, thanks. Apologies to Mr. Ludwick, who to the best of my knowledge has not registered a position on the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bb, thanks. Apologies to Mr. Ludwick, who to the best of my knowledge has not registered a position on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: RCWarrior1</title>
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		<dc:creator>RCWarrior1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou the cardinals have on their squad a handful of guys who are poster boys for the NRA.  And getting to the park at 1:00 every day allows for alot of down time and those good ol boys clean those guns, and clean those guns, and clean those guns.  They just love laying their hands on that weaponry as often as possible.  

I believe it is more an issue of this being allowed for a long time and now someone telling them they can&#039;t do what they&#039;ve been doing for years.  I think this is the reason you actually heard someone voice their opposition to the new gun rules.

You know, a democrats in office and he&#039;s taking away our right to bear arms :)  kind of stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou the cardinals have on their squad a handful of guys who are poster boys for the NRA.  And getting to the park at 1:00 every day allows for alot of down time and those good ol boys clean those guns, and clean those guns, and clean those guns.  They just love laying their hands on that weaponry as often as possible.  </p>
<p>I believe it is more an issue of this being allowed for a long time and now someone telling them they can&#8217;t do what they&#8217;ve been doing for years.  I think this is the reason you actually heard someone voice their opposition to the new gun rules.</p>
<p>You know, a democrats in office and he&#8217;s taking away our right to bear arms <img src='http://thecardinalnationblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   kind of stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in the world would anyone need to bring a gun into a locker room, or any other place of employment? It amazes me that anyone would need to be told this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in the world would anyone need to bring a gun into a locker room, or any other place of employment? It amazes me that anyone would need to be told this.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Up at the top you&#039;ve got &quot;Catagory: Ryan Ludwick&quot;.  

The rules, in clubhouses or anywhere else, are not in place because of guys like Franklin.  It&#039;s the Plexicos and Gilberts that cannot be counted on to act responsibly.  Unfortunatly, they are the ones least likely to abide by the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Up at the top you&#8217;ve got &#8220;Catagory: Ryan Ludwick&#8221;.  </p>
<p>The rules, in clubhouses or anywhere else, are not in place because of guys like Franklin.  It&#8217;s the Plexicos and Gilberts that cannot be counted on to act responsibly.  Unfortunatly, they are the ones least likely to abide by the rules.</p>
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