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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/10/could-the-cardinals-have-done-better-than-skip/#comment-9338</link>
		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t listened to the interview yet, but can one really separate the two?</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/10/could-the-cardinals-have-done-better-than-skip/#comment-9335</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, bb. Selk is not a player&#039;s personal psychologist. His job is to get them mentally prepared on the field.</description>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article on Mr. Selk the Cards staff psychologist on TCN site.  Never knew there was one. Must have got a workout last year.</description>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/10/could-the-cardinals-have-done-better-than-skip/#comment-9329</link>
		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Cards end up needing a pitcher at some point, I don&#039;t see it coming from the wreched refuse of the FA market.  We will need something to trade.  That something will be the more useful bullet.  That something should be a strong defender and an offensive tool and should be versatile enough to fit a variety of possible needs.  

Mo&#039;s hesitation on Lopez isn&#039;t really about the money and saving the bullet.  If the Cards have around $7M left, they could sign Lopez and still have their bullet if they need a pitcher.  After all, what pitchers are left that you couldn&#039;t get for $4M?

I understand that going forward there is a big chunk going to a core group, and Luddy will be getting expensive, so Mo needs to see if these young guys can hack it.  That is no excuse for not doing what it takes to win now, and I&#039;m not talking division champ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Cards end up needing a pitcher at some point, I don&#8217;t see it coming from the wreched refuse of the FA market.  We will need something to trade.  That something will be the more useful bullet.  That something should be a strong defender and an offensive tool and should be versatile enough to fit a variety of possible needs.  </p>
<p>Mo&#8217;s hesitation on Lopez isn&#8217;t really about the money and saving the bullet.  If the Cards have around $7M left, they could sign Lopez and still have their bullet if they need a pitcher.  After all, what pitchers are left that you couldn&#8217;t get for $4M?</p>
<p>I understand that going forward there is a big chunk going to a core group, and Luddy will be getting expensive, so Mo needs to see if these young guys can hack it.  That is no excuse for not doing what it takes to win now, and I&#8217;m not talking division champ.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/10/could-the-cardinals-have-done-better-than-skip/#comment-9328</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/6D505ABBD9C0DA07862576CE001625B8?OpenDocument

There is more bunka in this than your usual article.  They are praying Lozano doesn&#039;t leave Lopez on Mo&#039;s porch wrapped in  a blanket, with photographers around.</description>
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<p>There is more bunka in this than your usual article.  They are praying Lozano doesn&#8217;t leave Lopez on Mo&#8217;s porch wrapped in  a blanket, with photographers around.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/10/could-the-cardinals-have-done-better-than-skip/#comment-9327</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB----&quot;It may be a coincidence that the one remaining FA that the Cards could really use&quot;

The Cardinals are the market  foundation for any plan Lozano may be crafting.  If they are  winners, all guarantees go up.   He is in a position to offer Lopez now for chump change and incentives, just because it increases his prospects exponentially for getting close to 300 mill for AP where ever..  The Cardinals will hold their money against that possibility.  If Pujols comes out smoking, they may use it to embellish,  especially in support of a Franklin alternative , or a Carp breakdown.  If Albert comes out slow, they will just watch, profiting by his struggles.  They have until the 7/31st.

Summation...........I would be very surprised it they took Lopez.  At any cost.   He likely ends up in Milwaukee.  They will pray for prospects to raise their value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB&#8212;-&#8221;It may be a coincidence that the one remaining FA that the Cards could really use&#8221;</p>
<p>The Cardinals are the market  foundation for any plan Lozano may be crafting.  If they are  winners, all guarantees go up.   He is in a position to offer Lopez now for chump change and incentives, just because it increases his prospects exponentially for getting close to 300 mill for AP where ever..  The Cardinals will hold their money against that possibility.  If Pujols comes out smoking, they may use it to embellish,  especially in support of a Franklin alternative , or a Carp breakdown.  If Albert comes out slow, they will just watch, profiting by his struggles.  They have until the 7/31st.</p>
<p>Summation&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..I would be very surprised it they took Lopez.  At any cost.   He likely ends up in Milwaukee.  They will pray for prospects to raise their value.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your my ??????? here Man of Rio.  I thank you now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your my ??????? here Man of Rio.  I thank you now.</p>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 04:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westie , no need to clarify your thanks as fiction - it&#039;s plausible that one day you will actually thank me.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westie , no need to clarify your thanks as fiction &#8211; it&#8217;s plausible that one day you will actually thank me.  <img src='http://thecardinalnationblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 04:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be a coincidence that the one remaining FA that the Cards could really use, and who TLR would surely love to have, but who Mo and BDW seem disinterested in, just happened to sign up with agent of the one man in all the world who might be able to get things moving in Tony&#039;s direction.  And who may well favor that direction as well.  

It may also be a coincidence that it just happened to occur 3 or 4 days after Brendan&#039;s surgery.  

But another possibility,  along the lines of what Westy has been hinting at, before he backpeddled, does seem to present itself.  None of this means Westy isn&#039;t hallucinating, it just means he might be right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be a coincidence that the one remaining FA that the Cards could really use, and who TLR would surely love to have, but who Mo and BDW seem disinterested in, just happened to sign up with agent of the one man in all the world who might be able to get things moving in Tony&#8217;s direction.  And who may well favor that direction as well.  </p>
<p>It may also be a coincidence that it just happened to occur 3 or 4 days after Brendan&#8217;s surgery.  </p>
<p>But another possibility,  along the lines of what Westy has been hinting at, before he backpeddled, does seem to present itself.  None of this means Westy isn&#8217;t hallucinating, it just means he might be right.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 01:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks CC.
(fiction)

The word is that the AP talks went no further than stated above.  One of the advantages of being in closed talks (stalling) with the Cardinals, Lozano apparently used that position to pick off Lopez from SB.   This is an uncommon occurrence.  It is attempted often though.  Rarely does an agent find the type of advantages that would create an appearance of  &quot;superior position&quot;.  This would be one of those.........................  Scottie often has to deal with appearing to be the target of colluding owners which worries his clients............................ he parried gracefully with a &quot; 30 teams aren&#039;t looking for a &quot;starting&quot; 2nd baseman comment.

The point here is Lozano has nothing better to do than hustle a vulnerable kid......... its business, he knows what to do with advantage. It is a huge tell about his Cardinal disposition though.   Boras pays him back........if this wasn&#039;t a payback already by Lozano.  Life goes on.  I&#039;ll tell you whats coming down soon enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks CC.<br />
(fiction)</p>
<p>The word is that the AP talks went no further than stated above.  One of the advantages of being in closed talks (stalling) with the Cardinals, Lozano apparently used that position to pick off Lopez from SB.   This is an uncommon occurrence.  It is attempted often though.  Rarely does an agent find the type of advantages that would create an appearance of  &#8220;superior position&#8221;.  This would be one of those&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.  Scottie often has to deal with appearing to be the target of colluding owners which worries his clients&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. he parried gracefully with a &#8221; 30 teams aren&#8217;t looking for a &#8220;starting&#8221; 2nd baseman comment.</p>
<p>The point here is Lozano has nothing better to do than hustle a vulnerable kid&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; its business, he knows what to do with advantage. It is a huge tell about his Cardinal disposition though.   Boras pays him back&#8230;&#8230;..if this wasn&#8217;t a payback already by Lozano.  Life goes on.  I&#8217;ll tell you whats coming down soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westie, fiction doesn&#039;t have to be accurate.   Plausible with some entertainment value is probably a sufficient standard.   If probable was your standard, we&#039;d lose 2/3 of your postings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westie, fiction doesn&#8217;t have to be accurate.   Plausible with some entertainment value is probably a sufficient standard.   If probable was your standard, we&#8217;d lose 2/3 of your postings.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was saying that he thinks its just about  focusing his resources that will make him a good pitcher.  I agree.
Hill looks like he has some release issues.  I know he was just tossing, but he was playing with it.  Lets hope Duncan has all the answers BB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was saying that he thinks its just about  focusing his resources that will make him a good pitcher.  I agree.<br />
Hill looks like he has some release issues.  I know he was just tossing, but he was playing with it.  Lets hope Duncan has all the answers BB.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 03:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The P-D article just up by Gould on Duncan talking about watching Penny throw today is encouraging.  Ol&#039; DD is slathering (for him) over getting to work some majic on this guy.  If it works, it will work big.

The article on McGwire and Ryan makes the wrist situation more understandable.  With Brendan being laid up for a while, maybe Mac can somehow make a hitter out of Tyler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The P-D article just up by Gould on Duncan talking about watching Penny throw today is encouraging.  Ol&#8217; DD is slathering (for him) over getting to work some majic on this guy.  If it works, it will work big.</p>
<p>The article on McGwire and Ryan makes the wrist situation more understandable.  With Brendan being laid up for a while, maybe Mac can somehow make a hitter out of Tyler.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been schooled on message 82.    Although plausible, it is not probable that Albert is a go between here.   From appearances, Lozano may have approached this problem with his own &quot;information seeking&quot; motivations.  Apparently, cherry picking by agents in a notorious pass time, according to a friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been schooled on message 82.    Although plausible, it is not probable that Albert is a go between here.   From appearances, Lozano may have approached this problem with his own &#8220;information seeking&#8221; motivations.  Apparently, cherry picking by agents in a notorious pass time, according to a friend.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100212&amp;content_id=8070492&amp;vkey=news_stl&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=stl

This is a very convenient delaying tactic.  Its timing is clear.  It says nothing.  This is an invitation for Tony to say something.   It presumes, falsely, that what ever the Cards want or need, will be available at their pleasure.  Last year it was, &quot;we just don&#039;t see anything we like&quot;.

My point here isn&#039;t about a desire to sign Lopez.  I would rather watch the kids myself.  These tactics will influence the Pujols negotiations though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100212&amp;content_id=8070492&amp;vkey=news_stl&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=stl" rel="nofollow">http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100212&amp;content_id=8070492&amp;vkey=news_stl&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=stl</a></p>
<p>This is a very convenient delaying tactic.  Its timing is clear.  It says nothing.  This is an invitation for Tony to say something.   It presumes, falsely, that what ever the Cards want or need, will be available at their pleasure.  Last year it was, &#8220;we just don&#8217;t see anything we like&#8221;.</p>
<p>My point here isn&#8217;t about a desire to sign Lopez.  I would rather watch the kids myself.  These tactics will influence the Pujols negotiations though.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian&#039;s article on TCN site shows one outfit ranking Cards system 30th.  According to their figures, Mo&#039;s plan is to give the 3rd base job to a guy with a 15% chance of having a &#039;significant MLB career&#039;.  

Other than Gatcia, who is given a 35% chance, everybody else Mo is counting on to fill roster spots could hardly even be considered legitimate prospects the odds are so long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian&#8217;s article on TCN site shows one outfit ranking Cards system 30th.  According to their figures, Mo&#8217;s plan is to give the 3rd base job to a guy with a 15% chance of having a &#8216;significant MLB career&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Other than Gatcia, who is given a 35% chance, everybody else Mo is counting on to fill roster spots could hardly even be considered legitimate prospects the odds are so long.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets get back to business.  

There are protocols honored to some extent by Pro Agents.  Scott Boras is a very powerful and influential character.  In any dialog or exchange with Lopez, its highly unlikely that Lopez comes out on top.  That being said, the likelihood that Lopez jumps from Scottie to Hollywood in the same day, all by him self is slim and none.  The connection to Hollywood certainly wouldn&#039;t have been promoted by Lopez.  The immediacy of the announcement was purposeful then in the market place.  That is a move by a professional agent in an influential position from the get-go.  

I would say this is a likely scenario; 

Albert calls Lopez, or Lopez calls Albert, either is a possibility.  Lopez wants to know why the Cardinals aren&#039;t picking him up.  Pujols wants to know what Boras is asking or what the Cardinals are offering, if anything.  Lopez obviously is resentful of Boras using him as a Hood Ornament in a collusion case, or fearful that he is a victim of an attack on SB by the owners.  Albert says that you should talk to my agent.  Lozano sees a goldmine of information concerning Cardinal intentions wrapped up in this situations, so he advises, through Albert I would guess, that he jump to his agency.  Lopez calls Lonzano and then calls Boras and terminates.  This can be a litigious situation, so I&#039;m guessing all the details were scrutinized.
The game is really on now.  It is likely that Lozano pushes hard to get the Cardinals to make some sort of deal..............or know why.  I would guess this is indicative of what is really happening in the Albert/ Cardinal negotiations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets get back to business.  </p>
<p>There are protocols honored to some extent by Pro Agents.  Scott Boras is a very powerful and influential character.  In any dialog or exchange with Lopez, its highly unlikely that Lopez comes out on top.  That being said, the likelihood that Lopez jumps from Scottie to Hollywood in the same day, all by him self is slim and none.  The connection to Hollywood certainly wouldn&#8217;t have been promoted by Lopez.  The immediacy of the announcement was purposeful then in the market place.  That is a move by a professional agent in an influential position from the get-go.  </p>
<p>I would say this is a likely scenario; </p>
<p>Albert calls Lopez, or Lopez calls Albert, either is a possibility.  Lopez wants to know why the Cardinals aren&#8217;t picking him up.  Pujols wants to know what Boras is asking or what the Cardinals are offering, if anything.  Lopez obviously is resentful of Boras using him as a Hood Ornament in a collusion case, or fearful that he is a victim of an attack on SB by the owners.  Albert says that you should talk to my agent.  Lozano sees a goldmine of information concerning Cardinal intentions wrapped up in this situations, so he advises, through Albert I would guess, that he jump to his agency.  Lopez calls Lonzano and then calls Boras and terminates.  This can be a litigious situation, so I&#8217;m guessing all the details were scrutinized.<br />
The game is really on now.  It is likely that Lozano pushes hard to get the Cardinals to make some sort of deal&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..or know why.  I would guess this is indicative of what is really happening in the Albert/ Cardinal negotiations.</p>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nut - not necessarily true. You can draft the players you rank hihgky but they may not be turning out the way you want or expected them to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nut &#8211; not necessarily true. You can draft the players you rank hihgky but they may not be turning out the way you want or expected them to.</p>
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		<title>By: Nutlaw</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/10/could-the-cardinals-have-done-better-than-skip/#comment-9246</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you, BB, regarding a team&#039;s evaluation of their own prospects. If they don&#039;t consider their own system to be at least mid-tier, then they haven&#039;t been drafting the players that they rank highly for some reason. Right or wrong, you are going to fill your organization with the players that you rate more highly than others do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you, BB, regarding a team&#8217;s evaluation of their own prospects. If they don&#8217;t consider their own system to be at least mid-tier, then they haven&#8217;t been drafting the players that they rank highly for some reason. Right or wrong, you are going to fill your organization with the players that you rate more highly than others do.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/10/could-the-cardinals-have-done-better-than-skip/#comment-9243</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question is, does it make a difference?  Boras was telling him to be patient.  Now the fun starts.  No matter where he ends up, it was Albert that sent him to BHSC.   This could get good.  I had a feeling that the Brewers were going to wait for a desperation offer to take hold.  Scottie would never go for that knowing Seligs relationship to that team.  
You would think that Albert may well expect something to come of this.  Read thread again for why.
Someone will surely sign him now just to rub Scotties nose in it.

What if Albert approaches Mo and says,&quot; man, he will take an incentive laden deal.......and Mo says no.  Or will DeWitt bury the hatchet in Scotties back.   This is perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question is, does it make a difference?  Boras was telling him to be patient.  Now the fun starts.  No matter where he ends up, it was Albert that sent him to BHSC.   This could get good.  I had a feeling that the Brewers were going to wait for a desperation offer to take hold.  Scottie would never go for that knowing Seligs relationship to that team.<br />
You would think that Albert may well expect something to come of this.  Read thread again for why.<br />
Someone will surely sign him now just to rub Scotties nose in it.</p>
<p>What if Albert approaches Mo and says,&#8221; man, he will take an incentive laden deal&#8230;&#8230;.and Mo says no.  Or will DeWitt bury the hatchet in Scotties back.   This is perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/10/could-the-cardinals-have-done-better-than-skip/#comment-9242</link>
		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw where M. Leach projects Rasmus batting 6th.   Good man that Leach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw where M. Leach projects Rasmus batting 6th.   Good man that Leach.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe I&#039;ll break out my Jameson&#039;s and make it a double. TLR is probably doing the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe I&#8217;ll break out my Jameson&#8217;s and make it a double. TLR is probably doing the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free-agent infielder Felipe Lopez has fired his agent, Scott Boras, and signed on with the Beverly Hills Sports Council, a source told ESPN.com Friday. &lt;a href=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4910475 rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;

Among BHSC clients: Albert Pujols...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free-agent infielder Felipe Lopez has fired his agent, Scott Boras, and signed on with the Beverly Hills Sports Council, a source told ESPN.com Friday. <a href=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4910475 rel="nofollow">link</a></p>
<p>Among BHSC clients: Albert Pujols&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he turns great, if Colby develops, if Freese shows promise.......we should do some spanking Chief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he turns great, if Colby develops, if Freese shows promise&#8230;&#8230;.we should do some spanking Chief.</p>
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		<title>By: bigchieftootiemontana</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/02/10/could-the-cardinals-have-done-better-than-skip/#comment-9237</link>
		<dc:creator>bigchieftootiemontana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hay y&#039;all,

haven&#039;t been following all this but just read the link to Brian&#039;s article at Scout and I am feeling very optimistic about &quot;the Boog&#039;s&quot; 2010 season .  Man, if he could improve because of the surgery this could be one fantastic Redbird season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hay y&#8217;all,</p>
<p>haven&#8217;t been following all this but just read the link to Brian&#8217;s article at Scout and I am feeling very optimistic about &#8220;the Boog&#8217;s&#8221; 2010 season .  Man, if he could improve because of the surgery this could be one fantastic Redbird season.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, the Cards have been giving away players.  Oakland was more desperate than the Cards.  Cards sold them one of the prospects for  1.5,  essentially for added Cash.   Cleveland was shrewd, they did well against an emotionally motivated BD/MO and who were fighting a collapse and losing streak.  SD turned down an attempt to trade Shu or Luddy and got a good pitcher for junk (Green).  No one is going for these guys unless there is no recourse........... I&#039;m sure there are a few extenuating circumstance, but it doesn&#039;t look good.  A&#039;s turned over our number one with just a short look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, the Cards have been giving away players.  Oakland was more desperate than the Cards.  Cards sold them one of the prospects for  1.5,  essentially for added Cash.   Cleveland was shrewd, they did well against an emotionally motivated BD/MO and who were fighting a collapse and losing streak.  SD turned down an attempt to trade Shu or Luddy and got a good pitcher for junk (Green).  No one is going for these guys unless there is no recourse&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. I&#8217;m sure there are a few extenuating circumstance, but it doesn&#8217;t look good.  A&#8217;s turned over our number one with just a short look.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would assume the Cards&#039; analysts to be wrong for several reasons:

First lack of objectivity, in that the analysts probably work for Luhnow and helped choose the prospects in the first place.

Second, it wouldn&#039;t just be Law who was wrong, but every other ranking I have seen or heard of.

Third, as Westy said, &quot;They had nothing for the playoff, little for the Sept call up.&quot;

Fourth,  my own opinion that there are no impact players, just AAAA type role players who could probably be picked up as FA&#039;s cheeper that what it costs to develop them from scratch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would assume the Cards&#8217; analysts to be wrong for several reasons:</p>
<p>First lack of objectivity, in that the analysts probably work for Luhnow and helped choose the prospects in the first place.</p>
<p>Second, it wouldn&#8217;t just be Law who was wrong, but every other ranking I have seen or heard of.</p>
<p>Third, as Westy said, &#8220;They had nothing for the playoff, little for the Sept call up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fourth,  my own opinion that there are no impact players, just AAAA type role players who could probably be picked up as FA&#8217;s cheeper that what it costs to develop them from scratch.</p>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Cards analysts rank themselves at the mid point I&#039;d say they are spending way to much time analyzing other organizations.  Why should they be trying t figure out what organization ranks ahead of another?  What value does that serve for them?

That said, why would you assume Law is correct and the Cardinals are wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Cards analysts rank themselves at the mid point I&#8217;d say they are spending way to much time analyzing other organizations.  Why should they be trying t figure out what organization ranks ahead of another?  What value does that serve for them?</p>
<p>That said, why would you assume Law is correct and the Cardinals are wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I was thinking:

Suppose Luhnow was telling it like it really is inside the organization.  Suppose the Cards&#039; analysts really do evaluate the Cards&#039; prospect pool as midpoint.  Then, I suppose, Law is entirely correct?  What then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I was thinking:</p>
<p>Suppose Luhnow was telling it like it really is inside the organization.  Suppose the Cards&#8217; analysts really do evaluate the Cards&#8217; prospect pool as midpoint.  Then, I suppose, Law is entirely correct?  What then?</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a good retort by Law though, considering the Cardinals valuation of there own prospects.
They pulled teeth to get Rasmus here.  Ryan advanced because of the Green boondoggle.  They had nothing for the playoff, little for the Sept call up.   Tony/Albert always calling for help.  You don&#039;t need to do much evaluating.  Dollar on a dime they tell Luhnow to shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a good retort by Law though, considering the Cardinals valuation of there own prospects.<br />
They pulled teeth to get Rasmus here.  Ryan advanced because of the Green boondoggle.  They had nothing for the playoff, little for the Sept call up.   Tony/Albert always calling for help.  You don&#8217;t need to do much evaluating.  Dollar on a dime they tell Luhnow to shut up.</p>
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