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	<title>Comments on: Cardinals arbitration, spending and more dry powder</title>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-9198</link>
		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe you are correct.  1st and 2nd year arb&#039;s can be compared to players with a year more than their service time.  I was thinking 3rd year arb&#039;s could also (that universe would include FA&#039;s) but I was wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe you are correct.  1st and 2nd year arb&#8217;s can be compared to players with a year more than their service time.  I was thinking 3rd year arb&#8217;s could also (that universe would include FA&#8217;s) but I was wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-9197</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I understand your question correctly, the simple answer is &#039;no&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I understand your question correctly, the simple answer is &#8216;no&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-9195</link>
		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, you didn&#039;t understand my question but I think I found the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, you didn&#8217;t understand my question but I think I found the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-9191</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One year from now, Ludwick will be at 5.109, short of FA eligibility. That really narrows the bandwidth of good comps. Werth in 2010 would not qualify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One year from now, Ludwick will be at 5.109, short of FA eligibility. That really narrows the bandwidth of good comps. Werth in 2010 would not qualify.</p>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-9190</link>
		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But as a 6th year arb, Ludwick comps with FA&#039;s as well, correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But as a 6th year arb, Ludwick comps with FA&#8217;s as well, correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-9189</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair point. But they didn&#039;t, so they aren&#039;t. A win is a win!  ;-)

I really had a hard time getting comps that aligned with Ludwick other than Xavier Nady (2008&#039;s version). I think the Twins are getting a really good deal with Jason Kubel at $4.1M this year, for example. If Jayson Werth has a nice season at a $7 million salary this year, that could be a mark for Ludwick next year. The one big difference is that Werth is one year ahead of Ludwick in service time, so this is his first free agent eligible year...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair point. But they didn&#8217;t, so they aren&#8217;t. A win is a win!  <img src='http://thecardinalnationblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I really had a hard time getting comps that aligned with Ludwick other than Xavier Nady (2008&#8242;s version). I think the Twins are getting a really good deal with Jason Kubel at $4.1M this year, for example. If Jayson Werth has a nice season at a $7 million salary this year, that could be a mark for Ludwick next year. The one big difference is that Werth is one year ahead of Ludwick in service time, so this is his first free agent eligible year&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-9188</link>
		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically though if Shumaker had won his arb case  -- and based on your great analysis I think he would have  --  The PD would have been closer overall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically though if Shumaker had won his arb case  &#8212; and based on your great analysis I think he would have  &#8212;  The PD would have been closer overall.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-9187</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not gloating here. Just wanted to note for the record that my projection for Ludwick+Skip was an admittedly-low $6.9 million. Actual is $7.45 million. The P-D estimate was $8.5 million. Always good to loop back and see how accurate these were...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not gloating here. Just wanted to note for the record that my projection for Ludwick+Skip was an admittedly-low $6.9 million. Actual is $7.45 million. The P-D estimate was $8.5 million. Always good to loop back and see how accurate these were&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8440</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such is the power of free agency.</description>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8439</link>
		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luddy will be making more than Wainy, and Penny will be making more than either of them.  That&#039;s funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luddy will be making more than Wainy, and Penny will be making more than either of them.  That&#8217;s funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8436</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Cardinals and Ryan Ludwick agreed to terms on a one-year, $5.45 million deal: &lt;a href=http://stlcardinals.scout.com/2/939210.html rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cardinals and Ryan Ludwick agreed to terms on a one-year, $5.45 million deal: <a href=http://stlcardinals.scout.com/2/939210.html rel="nofollow">link</a></p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8418</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 05:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its about developing new avenues for moving resources BB, thats all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its about developing new avenues for moving resources BB, thats all.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8414</link>
		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 02:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westy, just for future reference, I hate reading about multi-gazillionairre bank stockholders whose ass was saved with my money, and my kids money, and their kids money, etc, etc.  And no, I don&#039;t want to think about who some of those guys are, I&#039;m pretty sure I know.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;re all tore up.  By the way, what&#039;s the line on where Albert signs, anybody know?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westy, just for future reference, I hate reading about multi-gazillionairre bank stockholders whose ass was saved with my money, and my kids money, and their kids money, etc, etc.  And no, I don&#8217;t want to think about who some of those guys are, I&#8217;m pretty sure I know.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re all tore up.  By the way, what&#8217;s the line on where Albert signs, anybody know?!</p>
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		<title>By: Nutlaw</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8413</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, but yeah, waiting for prices to drop even further seems very reasonable to me. There are a lot of decent players still out there, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, but yeah, waiting for prices to drop even further seems very reasonable to me. There are a lot of decent players still out there, for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Nutlaw</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8412</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While another outfielder and third baseman would be nice, I&#039;d be most happy to see the Cards sign another solid right hander to work in the pen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While another outfielder and third baseman would be nice, I&#8217;d be most happy to see the Cards sign another solid right hander to work in the pen.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8411</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See if you recognize any names or pretense.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9584104

http://suqalmal.blogspot.com/2010/01/kingdom-holding-company-issues-press.html

http://prophecybeyond.ning.com/forum/topics/saudi-prince-to-citibank-ceo?xg_source=activity

http://www.livemint.com/2010/01/10211511/Saudi-prince8217s-plan-show.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See if you recognize any names or pretense.</p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9584104" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9584104</a></p>
<p><a href="http://suqalmal.blogspot.com/2010/01/kingdom-holding-company-issues-press.html" rel="nofollow">http://suqalmal.blogspot.com/2010/01/kingdom-holding-company-issues-press.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://prophecybeyond.ning.com/forum/topics/saudi-prince-to-citibank-ceo?xg_source=activity" rel="nofollow">http://prophecybeyond.ning.com/forum/topics/saudi-prince-to-citibank-ceo?xg_source=activity</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.livemint.com/2010/01/10211511/Saudi-prince8217s-plan-show.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.livemint.com/2010/01/10211511/Saudi-prince8217s-plan-show.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8410</link>
		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC, I&#039;m pretty sure the FO was thinking they had about 9 months to sign Albert before 5/10 time.  If so, they just got an attitude adjustment.  They have 2 1/2 months to sign him, and failing that, 6 1/2 months to decide whether or not to trade him before the next negotiating window opens, at which time he&#039;ll be a 5/10 guy.  It&#039;s possible that the FO already knew Albert&#039;s position on it.  But either way, Albert chose to make it public, thereby bringing fan and media pressure to bear.  After all the focus on MH and MM and TLR lately, it could be Albert&#039;s way of re-focusing attention where it belongs, on the center of the cardinal nation universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC, I&#8217;m pretty sure the FO was thinking they had about 9 months to sign Albert before 5/10 time.  If so, they just got an attitude adjustment.  They have 2 1/2 months to sign him, and failing that, 6 1/2 months to decide whether or not to trade him before the next negotiating window opens, at which time he&#8217;ll be a 5/10 guy.  It&#8217;s possible that the FO already knew Albert&#8217;s position on it.  But either way, Albert chose to make it public, thereby bringing fan and media pressure to bear.  After all the focus on MH and MM and TLR lately, it could be Albert&#8217;s way of re-focusing attention where it belongs, on the center of the cardinal nation universe.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8409</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notice how cleverly Albert specified the point at which you might begin evaluating his discount, and how he would expect the team to use said savings?    If they want the 10yr deal....he is going to start discounting from 300 million.   He will go down to 250 but he will want accountability for that money..............they will never go for that.

The real point is...........try to deal with this........... the Saud&#039;s have decided to surface.  They are going around the off shore blockade straight through the front door at this point..............................  BD3 says the Cardinals might like the Bond market soon for Cardinal Village. ......... This  likely had an influence in the Holiday deal............at any cost.   Pujols is working for position.......BD is working for position.  To what extent they have similar goals is still unclear......................but Albert isn&#039;t going to be Sh-t on by the teams media machine if they have indeed decided to part ways.  His value wherever, is going to be decided by this relationship.  They are fighting over about 70/80 million I&#039;d guess.  Tony/Albert both attacking through the fan base should be evident to everyone here by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice how cleverly Albert specified the point at which you might begin evaluating his discount, and how he would expect the team to use said savings?    If they want the 10yr deal&#8230;.he is going to start discounting from 300 million.   He will go down to 250 but he will want accountability for that money&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..they will never go for that.</p>
<p>The real point is&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..try to deal with this&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. the Saud&#8217;s have decided to surface.  They are going around the off shore blockade straight through the front door at this point&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;  BD3 says the Cardinals might like the Bond market soon for Cardinal Village. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; This  likely had an influence in the Holiday deal&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;at any cost.   Pujols is working for position&#8230;&#8230;.BD is working for position.  To what extent they have similar goals is still unclear&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.but Albert isn&#8217;t going to be Sh-t on by the teams media machine if they have indeed decided to part ways.  His value wherever, is going to be decided by this relationship.  They are fighting over about 70/80 million I&#8217;d guess.  Tony/Albert both attacking through the fan base should be evident to everyone here by now.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8408</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derrick Goold also briefly mentions a discount &lt;a href=http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/bird-land/bird-land/2010/01/video-pujols-on-his-elbow-on-his-future/ rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in this article&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derrick Goold also briefly mentions a discount <a href=http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/bird-land/bird-land/2010/01/video-pujols-on-his-elbow-on-his-future/ rel="nofollow">in this article</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8407</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first time Albert speaks since the Birmingham trip..........and Joe Strauss didn&#039;t here it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first time Albert speaks since the Birmingham trip&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.and Joe Strauss didn&#8217;t here it?</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8406</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First baseman Albert Pujols said Monday that he would be willing to take a &quot;discount&quot; in a contract extension with the Cardinals &quot;if it will make our organization better.&quot;?????????????

He is pumping management, as I&#039;m suggesting.  Kind of interesting how that aspect of the interview escaped the PD writers..................kind of..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First baseman Albert Pujols said Monday that he would be willing to take a &#8220;discount&#8221; in a contract extension with the Cardinals &#8220;if it will make our organization better.&#8221;?????????????</p>
<p>He is pumping management, as I&#8217;m suggesting.  Kind of interesting how that aspect of the interview escaped the PD writers&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;kind of&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8405</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Globe story has a different feel than the &lt;a href=http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2010/01/el-hombre-in-no-rush-for-extension/ rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Post version&lt;/a&gt;, which does not mention a discount. Reader comments are very critical in the latter. It may be that Rains heard something Strauss didn&#039;t. I doubt it is a plot to cause more fan FUD.

Speaking of which, ever since Holliday was signed, &lt;a href=&quot;http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/07/time-to-act-on-the-holliday-pujols-contract-fud/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I have said &lt;/a&gt;the time for the Cards to push to get a deal done with Albert is now. All today&#039;s news does is reinforce that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Globe story has a different feel than the <a href=http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2010/01/el-hombre-in-no-rush-for-extension/ rel="nofollow"> Post version</a>, which does not mention a discount. Reader comments are very critical in the latter. It may be that Rains heard something Strauss didn&#8217;t. I doubt it is a plot to cause more fan FUD.</p>
<p>Speaking of which, ever since Holliday was signed, <a href="http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/07/time-to-act-on-the-holliday-pujols-contract-fud/" rel="nofollow">I have said </a>the time for the Cards to push to get a deal done with Albert is now. All today&#8217;s news does is reinforce that.</p>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2010/01/18/cardinals-arbitration-spending-and-more-dry-powder/#comment-8404</link>
		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That gives the Cardinals 2.5 months to negotiate so why is his statement an issue?    More importantly, he reportedly said he&#039;d take a discount!  

http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/jan/18/mondays-autograph-schedule-cardinals-winter-warm-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That gives the Cardinals 2.5 months to negotiate so why is his statement an issue?    More importantly, he reportedly said he&#8217;d take a discount!  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/jan/18/mondays-autograph-schedule-cardinals-winter-warm-/" rel="nofollow">http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/jan/18/mondays-autograph-schedule-cardinals-winter-warm-/</a></p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I tell you: When the season starts we’re not talking about it.

I can’t speak to it,” Pujols said. “It’s a commitment the Cardinals organization will have to make.”

If it comes to that, it’s fine. That’s a decision they make,” Pujols said before sitting for a two-hour autograph session at the downtown Hyatt. “If it happens, I have to deal with it. I want to play baseball. If I have to, I can play somewhere else.”

He’s serious about wanting it,” La Russa said. “Out of respect, we’ll give him a serious discussion.”

What exactly don&#039;t you understand, Brian......................................it would appear that there are a number of folks using tried and true pressure techniques to effect ownership.  Apparently they are expressing an opinion on your topic.  Ya think?

Tony won&#039;t subject Shu to a Kennedy competition........... but he thinks BD is going to let Edmond&#039;s destroy his poster boy...........?????????  Right.........if thats not a rhetorical pressure move, what else is he thinking......... He&#039;s trying to get that money spent.  .......Sounds a little like Albert might have a little attitude..................I have told you why........believe what you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I tell you: When the season starts we’re not talking about it.</p>
<p>I can’t speak to it,” Pujols said. “It’s a commitment the Cardinals organization will have to make.”</p>
<p>If it comes to that, it’s fine. That’s a decision they make,” Pujols said before sitting for a two-hour autograph session at the downtown Hyatt. “If it happens, I have to deal with it. I want to play baseball. If I have to, I can play somewhere else.”</p>
<p>He’s serious about wanting it,” La Russa said. “Out of respect, we’ll give him a serious discussion.”</p>
<p>What exactly don&#8217;t you understand, Brian&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..it would appear that there are a number of folks using tried and true pressure techniques to effect ownership.  Apparently they are expressing an opinion on your topic.  Ya think?</p>
<p>Tony won&#8217;t subject Shu to a Kennedy competition&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. but he thinks BD is going to let Edmond&#8217;s destroy his poster boy&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..?????????  Right&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;if thats not a rhetorical pressure move, what else is he thinking&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; He&#8217;s trying to get that money spent.  &#8230;&#8230;.Sounds a little like Albert might have a little attitude&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I have told you why&#8230;&#8230;..believe what you want.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy Cow!  Let&#039;s hope Dustin Mattison&#039;s summary of Albert&#039;s statememt is wrong somehow.  In the WWU 3rd Day article Dustin says Albert says he wants to finish up a Cardinal, &quot; . . but will not negotiate a new contract during the season&quot;.  In light of the 5/10 issues, and what the Cards planned time frame is believed to be, and Albert&#039;s stated reasons for putting it off (wanted Cards to focus on MH, wanted proof of commitment to win)  this would be a very major development, and not good.

&quot;He still wants to finish his career as the Cardinal but will not negotiate a new contract during the season. “El Hombre” will be focused on baseball and wants no distractions. More from Pujols later this evening. &quot;  (quote from article)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Cow!  Let&#8217;s hope Dustin Mattison&#8217;s summary of Albert&#8217;s statememt is wrong somehow.  In the WWU 3rd Day article Dustin says Albert says he wants to finish up a Cardinal, &#8221; . . but will not negotiate a new contract during the season&#8221;.  In light of the 5/10 issues, and what the Cards planned time frame is believed to be, and Albert&#8217;s stated reasons for putting it off (wanted Cards to focus on MH, wanted proof of commitment to win)  this would be a very major development, and not good.</p>
<p>&#8220;He still wants to finish his career as the Cardinal but will not negotiate a new contract during the season. “El Hombre” will be focused on baseball and wants no distractions. More from Pujols later this evening. &#8221;  (quote from article)</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is easy to forget that just staying as successful as the Cards have been from one year to the next is evidence of a good job by the FO.  The tendency is to think that not doing better from one year to the next is a failure.  I&#039;m guilty of that and will be the first to complain if we don&#039;t take the pennant this year.  And no, I don&#039;t want to hear about the vile Phillies giving us a run and all than nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is easy to forget that just staying as successful as the Cards have been from one year to the next is evidence of a good job by the FO.  The tendency is to think that not doing better from one year to the next is a failure.  I&#8217;m guilty of that and will be the first to complain if we don&#8217;t take the pennant this year.  And no, I don&#8217;t want to hear about the vile Phillies giving us a run and all than nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am of the opinion that the best use of that money is to wait and see what becomes available at the deadline.  I am anxious to see how the Garcia/Hawksworth/Walters/MacClellan combo plays out for the #5 starter, and want to see Freese get a real shot at 3rd and Craig and Jay get a shot as 4th and 5th outfielders.  If the Cardinals are going to invest a large percentage of their payroll on two players, then it is imperative that they get good performance from their farm system.  The bottom line there, is that at least 1 and preferably 2 players graduate annually to the bigs and make an impact.  That results in (looking forward) 4 to 8 players on the 25 man making around league minimum.  Currently that list includes Rasmus, Motte, K-Mac, and Hawk from last year, and will hopefully add Garcia, Freese, and at least Craig this year.  Plus, Lugo, which is an oddball case anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am of the opinion that the best use of that money is to wait and see what becomes available at the deadline.  I am anxious to see how the Garcia/Hawksworth/Walters/MacClellan combo plays out for the #5 starter, and want to see Freese get a real shot at 3rd and Craig and Jay get a shot as 4th and 5th outfielders.  If the Cardinals are going to invest a large percentage of their payroll on two players, then it is imperative that they get good performance from their farm system.  The bottom line there, is that at least 1 and preferably 2 players graduate annually to the bigs and make an impact.  That results in (looking forward) 4 to 8 players on the 25 man making around league minimum.  Currently that list includes Rasmus, Motte, K-Mac, and Hawk from last year, and will hopefully add Garcia, Freese, and at least Craig this year.  Plus, Lugo, which is an oddball case anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, bip. I agree.

bb, I wasn&#039;t firing at WC about DeWallet. Being totally honest, he didn&#039;t even cross my mind. To me that term represents a much broader community of &quot;the sky is falling&quot; (or should I say &quot;the sky will be falling&quot; individuals) that I have seen all over the net for at least the last ten or 15 years. It began back when the team was first sold and these people were sure the club would be sold again after five years. That was a decade ago. Many of WC&#039;s ideas about ownership are more out there and to be honest, I often don&#039;t even understand them, so I let them pass as interesting discussion fodder for some.

I am a big bottom line guy and seeing nine winning seasons and seven playoff appearances over the last decade, I give credit to ownership for having done a good job. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, bip. I agree.</p>
<p>bb, I wasn&#8217;t firing at WC about DeWallet. Being totally honest, he didn&#8217;t even cross my mind. To me that term represents a much broader community of &#8220;the sky is falling&#8221; (or should I say &#8220;the sky will be falling&#8221; individuals) that I have seen all over the net for at least the last ten or 15 years. It began back when the team was first sold and these people were sure the club would be sold again after five years. That was a decade ago. Many of WC&#8217;s ideas about ownership are more out there and to be honest, I often don&#8217;t even understand them, so I let them pass as interesting discussion fodder for some.</p>
<p>I am a big bottom line guy and seeing nine winning seasons and seven playoff appearances over the last decade, I give credit to ownership for having done a good job.</p>
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		<title>By: ball in play</title>
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		<dc:creator>ball in play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is a backup CF concern, backup 3B and backup closer too, but these are not concerns that need to be addressed today. shopping for backups, as bargains now or later, seems resourceful with the overall budget in mind.

Mo signed lohse during mid-march, when lohse first became a cardinal. there were questions about pineiro&#039;s readiness for the opening week and beyond, and a depth of rotation concern for the season. those late budget $ were very well spent on lohse, for much less than he was asking earlier that offseason. 

with Mo&#039;s late acquisition track record, and the orgs willingness to spend $ in 09 before the deadline, i&#039;ll be content with sitting back and letting the FO do their job, as they see fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is a backup CF concern, backup 3B and backup closer too, but these are not concerns that need to be addressed today. shopping for backups, as bargains now or later, seems resourceful with the overall budget in mind.</p>
<p>Mo signed lohse during mid-march, when lohse first became a cardinal. there were questions about pineiro&#8217;s readiness for the opening week and beyond, and a depth of rotation concern for the season. those late budget $ were very well spent on lohse, for much less than he was asking earlier that offseason. </p>
<p>with Mo&#8217;s late acquisition track record, and the orgs willingness to spend $ in 09 before the deadline, i&#8217;ll be content with sitting back and letting the FO do their job, as they see fit.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In hindsight, I see the Holliday and DeRo talk as just an attempt to keep DeRo on the hook as a plan B as long as possible.  Once it became obvious no real efforts to engage DeRo would be made until the MH thing was resolved one way or another, most people I think saw it for what it was.

Good point that Mo&#039;s comment could be a &#039;sink or swim time&#039; message to some Memphis guys.

The &#039;DeWallet&#039; crowd is reeling from their worldview being crushed by the MH signing.  My guess is once the season gets under way it will be the same thing all over again regarding Albert.  It is important to remember that they might be right next time.  Just because Westy and others who shared his views about BDW were tripped up on the MH thing doesn&#039;t mean that BDW is now willing to sacrifice profit for...anything.  Just as shifting economic and market conditions probably subdued the big spenders and made it possible for the Cards to snag MH, those same shifting conditions might end up conspiring against us.  All that has to happen is for the signing of Albert to project out as a bigger hit to the bottom line than not signing him, and it is really quite impossible to know how that will play out.  So I would consider positions on one side of that issue as legit as those on the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In hindsight, I see the Holliday and DeRo talk as just an attempt to keep DeRo on the hook as a plan B as long as possible.  Once it became obvious no real efforts to engage DeRo would be made until the MH thing was resolved one way or another, most people I think saw it for what it was.</p>
<p>Good point that Mo&#8217;s comment could be a &#8216;sink or swim time&#8217; message to some Memphis guys.</p>
<p>The &#8216;DeWallet&#8217; crowd is reeling from their worldview being crushed by the MH signing.  My guess is once the season gets under way it will be the same thing all over again regarding Albert.  It is important to remember that they might be right next time.  Just because Westy and others who shared his views about BDW were tripped up on the MH thing doesn&#8217;t mean that BDW is now willing to sacrifice profit for&#8230;anything.  Just as shifting economic and market conditions probably subdued the big spenders and made it possible for the Cards to snag MH, those same shifting conditions might end up conspiring against us.  All that has to happen is for the signing of Albert to project out as a bigger hit to the bottom line than not signing him, and it is really quite impossible to know how that will play out.  So I would consider positions on one side of that issue as legit as those on the other.</p>
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