What does it accomplish other than waste time? Will NL owners be more likely to support the DH if TLR and the others come out in favor? Conversely, will AL owners be willing to give up the DH advantage just because some NL guys don’t want it?

Most importantly of all, nothing happens unless the Players Union agrees and they aren’t even included in the committee! In the past, they have been pro-DH because it prolongs veterans’ careers. If the recommendation is to eliminate the DH, the players would probably need to be bought out with other concessions in the next CBA negotiations.

Selig made it very clear that this effort is his “baby”. As such, it could be one final element of his legacy.

Wow……………………… The Post can really bring the news………………. Cardinal Pr people are really scrambling to clear up any misinformation on their apparently confusing information to Post writers on the Holiday contract.. Bernie’s current opus makes him quite a player.

Good points Brian. I am not one for adding diversity for the sake of diversity but if you want the game to appeal to a large cross section of the country than you need to have views from a large cross section. If I felt confident that this group was going to reach out to a wide group via town halls or something I’d be less concerned but I dont see this group doing that either.

I do believe LaRussa is part Hispanic though (maybe that answers your question in the article why he was selected.)

fangraphs calculates Holliday to have been worth 20 WAR over the past three seasons, which was worth $86.8 million over that span.

If he could manage that the next three years (and not allowed to opt out!!) he’d only have to be worth $43.2M over the last five years of the deal to break even.

I’ll quit now so as not to break Westy’s record of consecutive posts, or was that Jumbo?

Official with knowledge of the Yankees’ thinking said there is “not a chance” the team bids for Holliday or Bay this winter.
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Brian, I doubt the players union would load up on old white geezers on their committees. As to the wave, I sit in the front row of the upper deck so I ignore it. Rally towels definatly affect the game on the field, having directly caused the N.L. to be represented by a bunch of chumps in the WS.

Selig said his concern is speed of the game. How about they return the commercial breaks between half-innings to 60 seconds like they used to be instead of 90? That would knock off between eight and nine minutes right there. Fat chance…

I believe your up on all the new developments. I knew that offer was to good to be true. I’m backing off my 1/3 revision down to 1/10 now. Well above 0. It does appear that the Cardinals didn’t waste any time leaking they’re real offer. Yankees will take him for 6/120.

Westy, whatever comedy you may be referring to is nothing next to that whole ‘zero chance’ routine of yours. That was classic.

If Albert is the second highest paid player on the team next year, then what?

That said, Mo must not be feeling too good today upon getting schooled by the Phillies GM on how to get an extension before you make the trade!

I wonder if you have a point about Troy? Lets not forget that Bays agent is sitting at home, and Boras is in constant contact with the Yankees as they toy with the Damon contract.

Everyone in the league knows the big dog has left scent on Holiday. Remember last year when the Reds Sox were ready to announce MT at 160. The Cards won’t go any higher. The Yanks now know their price. Boston isn’t really threatening yet after the Cameron deal. Lackey may not be the monster they paid for. …………………………….Yankees know one more long term mega deal could takes them out of the Pujols sweepstakes.

The biggest factor of all is the opt out. Look at the market in 2012 and you may find answers. Boras may be thinking of himself and the chance of a hostage deal like his failed A-Rod maneuver.
I’m not sure we will see contract details on this one….unless he signs. The Yanks are in perfect position here for a number of reasons. Clearing payroll, getting rid of old horses etc.

On a positive. If Holiday is here for 8yrs. Albert and Matt should find a rhythm. Obvious solution is Holiday 3rd and playing baseball up front. Get a third baseman with a stick to guard Pujols in the 5th spot and we crush the division.

Jason Bay doesn’t want to be a Met. He is hating his agent at this point. I’m glad Cliff Lee has left the NL……………………..where are the Angels and the Dodgers in all this?

Holliday, while the best of the lot this year is not worth an 8 year deal so most teams would rather take the lessor player(Bay) for less years than more talented player(Holliday) for too many years. For 4 or 5 years I take Holliday all day over Bay but if given the contract differences of up to 4 years longer for Holliday, I have to pass on him. He’s not 4 years at 16 mil a year better than Bay. Those last 4 years Matt will probably be as overpaid as Andru Jones or Gary Mathews Jr.

Go ahead Brian, Jumbo could probably use the excersize.

I don’t necessarily see Jason Bay getting more total money than Matt Holliday, but I can see where if Matt were to sign earlier than does Jason that some clubs may bid against each other and this could make for Jason getting more money than he would have otherwise.

But I will say this, it sure doesn’t appear that anyone wants Matt but the Cardinals. I see Jason’s name almost every day with a couple of teams but the only team Matt is associated with is the Cards.

If this is what you are suggesting, I am curious under which scenarios you see Bay getting more money than Holliday because I can not envision it. Or perhaps you mean the last one to sign will be able to get his own price higher than it would have been. I can understand that.

Man it sure does appear that Mo has worked some magic and has the Cards in a good position to at least make Matt Holliday squirm a little bit. It appears that both Holliday and Bay are trying to outlast one another to pull in the bigger bucks.

The same thing maybe with Holliday. Fans want someone to help Pujols. But if the Cards make a competitive bid trying to win Holliday, then some will worry that its too many years and too much money. Normally DeWitt is insulted as too cheap, now he can be called too much of a high roller. Whatever he is, its wrong, to somebody.

Mo and DeWitt have to ignore the short-term opinions of fans and try to do what makes the most sense. If they want Matt Holliday, its simple, they have to outbid every other team, including the Yankees, and this means paying the piper. Few cheap bargains in free agency.

4. The Yankees just won a championship. They do not need to take on another huge contract for Holliday. In New York, there are high state and city taxes. They would probably have to go 9 years and 180MM to even start a conversation with Holliday. And why would Holliday want to live near NYC? Does he want to party with Jeter? No.

1. DeWitt is bidding up Holliday, so the Red Sox do not want any part of it. They are falling back to a short deal on Cameron, who plays good D and is cheaper.

I would give the Cards signing Holliday an 80 percent chance. Holliday wants no trade protection. He mentioned the Rockies would not give him this. So fine, if this matters to Matt, he gets it. We need to get his John Hancock on a contract.

What other owner is going to outbid DeWitt? Now is the time for this other owner to step forward. Lets get this thing decided.