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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/10/19/checking-cardinals-early-draft-pick-return/#comment-6049</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colby??????????  puppy.....be honest.  He doesn&#039;t even start in Pittsburgh.  Maybe SD
Luddy?????????  a boy scout
Shu ??????????  he shows grit but is hardly capable of PHilly emotionality.  Really doesn&#039;t have a role     save the managements evasion at paying a 2nd baseman lead off man that will slap and steal etc.
Ryan?????????????  If he were walking by the side of the road, I would be compelled to slow down.   Way down.

The special ed guy are gone.......................The pitchers are the men........and rbi contenders with this lot.

Tony breeds individuals with his platoon system.  I wish he would leave, but I see that he&#039;s not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colby??????????  puppy&#8230;..be honest.  He doesn&#8217;t even start in Pittsburgh.  Maybe SD<br />
Luddy?????????  a boy scout<br />
Shu ??????????  he shows grit but is hardly capable of PHilly emotionality.  Really doesn&#8217;t have a role     save the managements evasion at paying a 2nd baseman lead off man that will slap and steal etc.<br />
Ryan?????????????  If he were walking by the side of the road, I would be compelled to slow down.   Way down.</p>
<p>The special ed guy are gone&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..The pitchers are the men&#8230;&#8230;..and rbi contenders with this lot.</p>
<p>Tony breeds individuals with his platoon system.  I wish he would leave, but I see that he&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: Axcion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axcion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 07:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have really got to start spellchecking my writing!  Errors of haste lay waste to the space.

Nutlaw, no you certainly can&#039;t expect us to field Yankeesque All-Star teams, but I do think we could easily carry a couple more stars.  By the way, I would add Yadier to your short list.  Molina is simply a game changer and that is the definition of a star.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have really got to start spellchecking my writing!  Errors of haste lay waste to the space.</p>
<p>Nutlaw, no you certainly can&#8217;t expect us to field Yankeesque All-Star teams, but I do think we could easily carry a couple more stars.  By the way, I would add Yadier to your short list.  Molina is simply a game changer and that is the definition of a star.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/10/19/checking-cardinals-early-draft-pick-return/#comment-6043</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be sure to read the article &quot;why are the Phillies better&quot; on the paper site.  Also the fan response to&quot; we&#039;ll stand pat in the bull pen&quot;...................it is rich I must admit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be sure to read the article &#8220;why are the Phillies better&#8221; on the paper site.  Also the fan response to&#8221; we&#8217;ll stand pat in the bull pen&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.it is rich I must admit.</p>
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		<title>By: Nutlaw</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/10/19/checking-cardinals-early-draft-pick-return/#comment-6042</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pujols, Carpenter, and Wainwright are some of the very best at what they do. You can&#039;t expect to field a whole team of MVP or Cy Young caliber players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pujols, Carpenter, and Wainwright are some of the very best at what they do. You can&#8217;t expect to field a whole team of MVP or Cy Young caliber players.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/10/19/checking-cardinals-early-draft-pick-return/#comment-6036</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one AX.................lots of reasonable questions to ponder.  Some times lofty perches can disguise the nature of the bird.   To be honest, I&#039;m having a bit of a spiritual crisis of my own on this topic.  I see and understand Albert with a flood of compassion, and yet the player/coach in me sees and resents his inability to remain in an emotional, competitive frame work with his teammates.  Maybe just the suspicion that he prefers the first half of this season, to the second half.  His challenges are formidable.  I really think he wanted to play the world tourney just so he could disappear in a sea of manly &quot;gaucho&#039;s&quot;  who share in the game experience the way he remembers it.
If you look at this team, it really was a team of wannabes.  Save for Carp and Waino, few hero&#039;s to be found.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one AX&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..lots of reasonable questions to ponder.  Some times lofty perches can disguise the nature of the bird.   To be honest, I&#8217;m having a bit of a spiritual crisis of my own on this topic.  I see and understand Albert with a flood of compassion, and yet the player/coach in me sees and resents his inability to remain in an emotional, competitive frame work with his teammates.  Maybe just the suspicion that he prefers the first half of this season, to the second half.  His challenges are formidable.  I really think he wanted to play the world tourney just so he could disappear in a sea of manly &#8220;gaucho&#8217;s&#8221;  who share in the game experience the way he remembers it.<br />
If you look at this team, it really was a team of wannabes.  Save for Carp and Waino, few hero&#8217;s to be found.</p>
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		<title>By: Axcion</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/10/19/checking-cardinals-early-draft-pick-return/#comment-6035</link>
		<dc:creator>Axcion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t disagree that the ligament issue is not present in Albert&#039;s mind on a daily basis.  Surely it has to be.  He&#039;s totally cognizant of the consequences of one wrong swing.  I&#039;m sure when the soreness flairs up that he protects it with a lesser/ajusted swing.  

I guess the questions still remain as to his motivation for not having the surgery.  Is he afraid he&#039;ll let down his team-mates and fans if his absense will cause a losing season?  Is he worried his record setting string of numbers will be halted?  Does he fear the surgery won&#039;t be 100% corrective and therefore leave him unable to perform at his normal dizzying heights?  Is it that Latin Machismo; he&#039;s tough, he&#039;ll be fine?  Or is it as simple as he thinks his elbow is just fine and he&#039;s just having technical issues with his swing?  Will he feel guilty if he&#039;s on the sideline and not &#039;earning&#039; his salary?  Maybe, being the role model his is, he just doesn&#039;t want to let anyone down.  Will the team revenues suffer if he&#039;s not in the lineup?

A lot of things to think about for the man who only carries a nation on his shoulders.  We the fans, don&#039;t expect too much.   Just that he&#039;s able to be faster then Vince Coleman, more powerful than Mark McGwire, able to leap tall stadiums in a single bound.  And we expect nothing less......................no pressure there!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t disagree that the ligament issue is not present in Albert&#8217;s mind on a daily basis.  Surely it has to be.  He&#8217;s totally cognizant of the consequences of one wrong swing.  I&#8217;m sure when the soreness flairs up that he protects it with a lesser/ajusted swing.  </p>
<p>I guess the questions still remain as to his motivation for not having the surgery.  Is he afraid he&#8217;ll let down his team-mates and fans if his absense will cause a losing season?  Is he worried his record setting string of numbers will be halted?  Does he fear the surgery won&#8217;t be 100% corrective and therefore leave him unable to perform at his normal dizzying heights?  Is it that Latin Machismo; he&#8217;s tough, he&#8217;ll be fine?  Or is it as simple as he thinks his elbow is just fine and he&#8217;s just having technical issues with his swing?  Will he feel guilty if he&#8217;s on the sideline and not &#8216;earning&#8217; his salary?  Maybe, being the role model his is, he just doesn&#8217;t want to let anyone down.  Will the team revenues suffer if he&#8217;s not in the lineup?</p>
<p>A lot of things to think about for the man who only carries a nation on his shoulders.  We the fans, don&#8217;t expect too much.   Just that he&#8217;s able to be faster then Vince Coleman, more powerful than Mark McGwire, able to leap tall stadiums in a single bound.  And we expect nothing less&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.no pressure there!!!</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No conspiracy AX............I think thats what is in Albert&#039;s head.  You would agree that whats happening doesn&#039;t add up.  To a winner anyway.  In a way, I guess I hoped he would have the surgery.  It doesn&#039;t add up for anyone save Albert&#039;s push for records to go on like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No conspiracy AX&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I think thats what is in Albert&#8217;s head.  You would agree that whats happening doesn&#8217;t add up.  To a winner anyway.  In a way, I guess I hoped he would have the surgery.  It doesn&#8217;t add up for anyone save Albert&#8217;s push for records to go on like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Axcion</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/10/19/checking-cardinals-early-draft-pick-return/#comment-6031</link>
		<dc:creator>Axcion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westie, I&#039;m beginning to think you have a growing friendship with Michael Moore.  ((:   

I ain&#039;t going to see that movie (let&#039;s just call it the &#039;Cardinal Conspriacy Factor&#039; for now)  either!  LOL!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westie, I&#8217;m beginning to think you have a growing friendship with Michael Moore.  ((:   </p>
<p>I ain&#8217;t going to see that movie (let&#8217;s just call it the &#8216;Cardinal Conspriacy Factor&#8217; for now)  either!  LOL!!!</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/10/19/checking-cardinals-early-draft-pick-return/#comment-6030</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the number 30 was a complimentary affirmation of Albert&#039;s comparative value in the market place in relationship to other &quot;highly paid&quot; super stars. Mark was just trying to be nice.

I personally don&#039;t believe that Albert&#039;s elbow was the source of his hitting problems.  Fear of snapping the ligament could have played a part.  If he was that paranoid about his early bat path causing pain and or catastrophe, he could have just changed its position.  He did experiment some I will admit.  The tactical advantage of moving him to cleanup if he was concealing an injury was to great for any of this to be true.  That would make him a selfish A__H--le.  There is a denial issue still developing here.  It has cost us Holiday, and in the end probably Albert.  I want to see the clean out video and the ligament.  Lets hope it makes u-tube.  Albert seemed excited about something that was revealed to him..............about his elbow? the team? a clarification of his relationship to the management.  I believe he thinks he scored somehow......lets see.  I would have had it fixed in a minute if I were him.  Right now!  Maybe he wants Tony back that bad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the number 30 was a complimentary affirmation of Albert&#8217;s comparative value in the market place in relationship to other &#8220;highly paid&#8221; super stars. Mark was just trying to be nice.</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t believe that Albert&#8217;s elbow was the source of his hitting problems.  Fear of snapping the ligament could have played a part.  If he was that paranoid about his early bat path causing pain and or catastrophe, he could have just changed its position.  He did experiment some I will admit.  The tactical advantage of moving him to cleanup if he was concealing an injury was to great for any of this to be true.  That would make him a selfish A__H&#8211;le.  There is a denial issue still developing here.  It has cost us Holiday, and in the end probably Albert.  I want to see the clean out video and the ligament.  Lets hope it makes u-tube.  Albert seemed excited about something that was revealed to him&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..about his elbow? the team? a clarification of his relationship to the management.  I believe he thinks he scored somehow&#8230;&#8230;lets see.  I would have had it fixed in a minute if I were him.  Right now!  Maybe he wants Tony back that bad?</p>
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		<title>By: Axcion</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/10/19/checking-cardinals-early-draft-pick-return/#comment-6029</link>
		<dc:creator>Axcion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO, Ted Williams was the greatest hitter ever.  Add back those 5 years of military service (four of which were in the prime of his career) and let&#039;s see who should hold all the records.  Williams greatness will forever be frozen in time.  Okay that&#039;s tacky, but worth a few smiles.  The point to these comments is that I feel Albert is every bit the technician Ted was at the plate and yeah I agree; what if Pujols had been healthy his whole career?  The term &quot;GODDY NUMBERS&quot; becomes a literal translation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, Ted Williams was the greatest hitter ever.  Add back those 5 years of military service (four of which were in the prime of his career) and let&#8217;s see who should hold all the records.  Williams greatness will forever be frozen in time.  Okay that&#8217;s tacky, but worth a few smiles.  The point to these comments is that I feel Albert is every bit the technician Ted was at the plate and yeah I agree; what if Pujols had been healthy his whole career?  The term &#8220;GODDY NUMBERS&#8221; becomes a literal translation.</p>
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		<title>By: Axcion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axcion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to begrudgingly admit you&#039;re correct Jumbo.  It is Albert&#039;s body and as such his right to keep it to himself.  I just think if he would have said a long time ago that it was bothering him a little.  The speculation runaway freight train wouldn&#039;t have kicked up so much dirt on the way by.  If you know what I&#039;m saying.

As for the minor league system Jumbo, thanks for the compliment, but I&#039;m not sure my knowledge measures up to yours.  Man you got the history of the players down; where they came from; when they were drafted; what brand of glove they use...........

BB, I just cringed when I read McGwire&#039;s comment.  I mean thanks a lot Mark, it will be hard enough for Mo trying to come up with a reasonable figure that all parties can live with.  Memo to McGwire:  &quot;You&#039;re not helping!!!!!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to begrudgingly admit you&#8217;re correct Jumbo.  It is Albert&#8217;s body and as such his right to keep it to himself.  I just think if he would have said a long time ago that it was bothering him a little.  The speculation runaway freight train wouldn&#8217;t have kicked up so much dirt on the way by.  If you know what I&#8217;m saying.</p>
<p>As for the minor league system Jumbo, thanks for the compliment, but I&#8217;m not sure my knowledge measures up to yours.  Man you got the history of the players down; where they came from; when they were drafted; what brand of glove they use&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>BB, I just cringed when I read McGwire&#8217;s comment.  I mean thanks a lot Mark, it will be hard enough for Mo trying to come up with a reasonable figure that all parties can live with.  Memo to McGwire:  &#8220;You&#8217;re not helping!!!!!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Axion, you wonder why the Cards do not go in there and fix the elbow properly.   This had to be done with Carpenter and Chris probably wanted this.  
But Albert is probably calling the shots about Albert&#039;s elbow.   It does not matter what Paletta or Mo or DeWitt want.   Players have a legitmate role in deciding what happens to them.   Pujols prefers to trust in in his injured ligament or wants not to miss months of playing time.   This is why Albert can announce his elbow if now fine.   Its Albert&#039;s opinion and he says the Doctors agree.  Albert gets to decide what he wants to do and he feels he is playable.   
It makes me wonder who extraordinary Pujols could be, if his elbow were genuinely sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Axion, you wonder why the Cards do not go in there and fix the elbow properly.   This had to be done with Carpenter and Chris probably wanted this.<br />
But Albert is probably calling the shots about Albert&#8217;s elbow.   It does not matter what Paletta or Mo or DeWitt want.   Players have a legitmate role in deciding what happens to them.   Pujols prefers to trust in in his injured ligament or wants not to miss months of playing time.   This is why Albert can announce his elbow if now fine.   Its Albert&#8217;s opinion and he says the Doctors agree.  Albert gets to decide what he wants to do and he feels he is playable.<br />
It makes me wonder who extraordinary Pujols could be, if his elbow were genuinely sound.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Axion, btw, I like a lot of your comments.  Strong knowledge of the farm system.  

Some aspects of the myseterious Pujols situation may be refreshingly simple.  Obviously Albert had a physical problem.  But if the player chooses not to acknowledge this to the presss, the team should not disclose the injury.  This would be true for any player.  Players can reveal their aches and pains, but the employer should generally not violate a guys right to privacy about his conditions.   So Albert&#039;s mysterious slump is not intended to be insulting to fans.   Its crazy, but its the way things have to be, I guess.   If Albert has a physical vulnerability, he chooses not to reveal it to opposing pitchers by talking about it.  Even though everyone knows something is amiss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Axion, btw, I like a lot of your comments.  Strong knowledge of the farm system.  </p>
<p>Some aspects of the myseterious Pujols situation may be refreshingly simple.  Obviously Albert had a physical problem.  But if the player chooses not to acknowledge this to the presss, the team should not disclose the injury.  This would be true for any player.  Players can reveal their aches and pains, but the employer should generally not violate a guys right to privacy about his conditions.   So Albert&#8217;s mysterious slump is not intended to be insulting to fans.   Its crazy, but its the way things have to be, I guess.   If Albert has a physical vulnerability, he chooses not to reveal it to opposing pitchers by talking about it.  Even though everyone knows something is amiss.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P-D story about the Sporting News interview with McGwire, where he says Pujols would get $30M+/yr if he were on the FA market.  Bet its a plant, either by parties unknown to get Albert to not re-up for the Cards number and come on the market after2011, or by Beverly Hills to make their number seem like a bargain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P-D story about the Sporting News interview with McGwire, where he says Pujols would get $30M+/yr if he were on the FA market.  Bet its a plant, either by parties unknown to get Albert to not re-up for the Cards number and come on the market after2011, or by Beverly Hills to make their number seem like a bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: Axcion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axcion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well at least Mozeliak and Pujols finally admitted the worst kept secret in baseball; that Albert&#039;s elbow was in discomfort (the degree of which still remains unknown) for a good portion of the year.  TLR came clean earlier that he might have a touch of said discomfort.  

I think the feeble attempt by the team to claim nothing was wrong was an insulting tact to Joe Fan.  It&#039;s like Cardinal Nation as a whole was too stupid to see the obvious drop in production; the change in his swing and the opposing teams new found gonads to pitch to him.  Obviously they didn&#039;t want to give any advantage to the other teams by coming forth with that info, but you know what?  I have to think any advanced scout worth his salt picks up on Albert&#039;s fall from superhuman grace.

Westie, while the whole affair may have been wraught with conspiracy and coverup.  At least we have some closure on the issue and we can move on to the next topic.  Brian, what have you got for us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at least Mozeliak and Pujols finally admitted the worst kept secret in baseball; that Albert&#8217;s elbow was in discomfort (the degree of which still remains unknown) for a good portion of the year.  TLR came clean earlier that he might have a touch of said discomfort.  </p>
<p>I think the feeble attempt by the team to claim nothing was wrong was an insulting tact to Joe Fan.  It&#8217;s like Cardinal Nation as a whole was too stupid to see the obvious drop in production; the change in his swing and the opposing teams new found gonads to pitch to him.  Obviously they didn&#8217;t want to give any advantage to the other teams by coming forth with that info, but you know what?  I have to think any advanced scout worth his salt picks up on Albert&#8217;s fall from superhuman grace.</p>
<p>Westie, while the whole affair may have been wraught with conspiracy and coverup.  At least we have some closure on the issue and we can move on to the next topic.  Brian, what have you got for us?</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Cards treated Carp&#039;s problem conseratively.   They hoped to avoid a TJ operation.   In due course, they found an operation was necessary.   

In Albert&#039;s case, he is likely the one making the treatment decisions.  

He seems to have an aversion to TJ surgery, if he can keep playing without it.   He has to have borne a lot of pain during the past 7 years, as a result.  

Albert has a guaranteed contract.   If he decides he needs an operation, he will still get paid. while on the DL  Some other players would just do the operation to put it behind them.   Albert wants to keep playing.  He has a remarkable work ethic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cards treated Carp&#8217;s problem conseratively.   They hoped to avoid a TJ operation.   In due course, they found an operation was necessary.   </p>
<p>In Albert&#8217;s case, he is likely the one making the treatment decisions.  </p>
<p>He seems to have an aversion to TJ surgery, if he can keep playing without it.   He has to have borne a lot of pain during the past 7 years, as a result.  </p>
<p>Albert has a guaranteed contract.   If he decides he needs an operation, he will still get paid. while on the DL  Some other players would just do the operation to put it behind them.   Albert wants to keep playing.  He has a remarkable work ethic.</p>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasn&#039;t Albert gone to Dr. Andrews before for a second opinion or is that just my memory showing my age?</description>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah...........bone chips can bet characterized as particles as small as a grain of sand.  They can be caused by stress and or friction on the bone surface.  ( or just left over junk from filing a groove to seat a rerouted nerve)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..bone chips can bet characterized as particles as small as a grain of sand.  They can be caused by stress and or friction on the bone surface.  ( or just left over junk from filing a groove to seat a rerouted nerve)</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very bias and possessive news making by the Cardinal Organization continues to evolve, challenging  reason most often, but in the end who really cares.    The Cardinals are a business and they have every right to influence their customers toward a more profitable relationship.

These are a few of the questions that I feel some resolution about.

1)  Why the contentious posturing by Albert at years end?

Very likely, a distressed Albert requested, through his agent possibly, a review of his elbow problems by an independent doctor at seasons end.  Apparently this request was received with some concern by the Cardinals. ( Reasons for concern?  Take your pick.)  Possibly, the Albert camp took exception to the tone of this dialog and he ceased being cooperative to Managements needs.  (Refusing to talk to the press at Mo&#039;s request while excepting a phone interview with a Dominican radio station).

2) This comment by Mo;   Mozeliak said “the thinking was if there was a reconstruction, Paletta would be a part of the process.”

Understanding a bit about this;    the rights and privileges of the employer and their business associates,  Albert&#039;s contract insurance carrier, both had the right for review and input on these procedures.  (Most all claims for insurance payouts on the loss of services are settled before a judge at some point.)  This would not include intervention in Dr. Andrews procedure, but overseeing the surgical removal of ligament materials from the another parts of the insured beast. (no way Albert uses cadaver tissue unless it was from superman).  

3) What does this have to do with anything?

All parties now have a medical report and a procedural/ exploratory video which shows the real state of Albert&#039;s ligament.  This makes the Insurance carrier happy.  This is a nice selling tool for an enterprising agent.  This either heightens or relieves Albert&#039;s worries about potential conflict of interest with the cardinal medical staff. ( &quot;You want to just do the Tj surgery while were in here.  This thing could blow at any time&quot;).

There is fertile ground for endless speculation on these topics, all leading through the process of &quot;reductive symmetry&quot; to the elevated perspective characterized by the statement, &quot; I like the Phillies to beat the Yankee&#039;s in 6&quot;. ( We will never hit like these teams unless we get a hitting coach.  Cubs pay 2million plus for Jarmillo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very bias and possessive news making by the Cardinal Organization continues to evolve, challenging  reason most often, but in the end who really cares.    The Cardinals are a business and they have every right to influence their customers toward a more profitable relationship.</p>
<p>These are a few of the questions that I feel some resolution about.</p>
<p>1)  Why the contentious posturing by Albert at years end?</p>
<p>Very likely, a distressed Albert requested, through his agent possibly, a review of his elbow problems by an independent doctor at seasons end.  Apparently this request was received with some concern by the Cardinals. ( Reasons for concern?  Take your pick.)  Possibly, the Albert camp took exception to the tone of this dialog and he ceased being cooperative to Managements needs.  (Refusing to talk to the press at Mo&#8217;s request while excepting a phone interview with a Dominican radio station).</p>
<p>2) This comment by Mo;   Mozeliak said “the thinking was if there was a reconstruction, Paletta would be a part of the process.”</p>
<p>Understanding a bit about this;    the rights and privileges of the employer and their business associates,  Albert&#8217;s contract insurance carrier, both had the right for review and input on these procedures.  (Most all claims for insurance payouts on the loss of services are settled before a judge at some point.)  This would not include intervention in Dr. Andrews procedure, but overseeing the surgical removal of ligament materials from the another parts of the insured beast. (no way Albert uses cadaver tissue unless it was from superman).  </p>
<p>3) What does this have to do with anything?</p>
<p>All parties now have a medical report and a procedural/ exploratory video which shows the real state of Albert&#8217;s ligament.  This makes the Insurance carrier happy.  This is a nice selling tool for an enterprising agent.  This either heightens or relieves Albert&#8217;s worries about potential conflict of interest with the cardinal medical staff. ( &#8220;You want to just do the Tj surgery while were in here.  This thing could blow at any time&#8221;).</p>
<p>There is fertile ground for endless speculation on these topics, all leading through the process of &#8220;reductive symmetry&#8221; to the elevated perspective characterized by the statement, &#8221; I like the Phillies to beat the Yankee&#8217;s in 6&#8243;. ( We will never hit like these teams unless we get a hitting coach.  Cubs pay 2million plus for Jarmillo).</p>
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		<title>By: CariocaCardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>CariocaCardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gawd, I hate the idea of defending the Cardinal medical staff but....If there are bone chips it means there is something wrong with the ligament or they wouldn&#039;t have occurred.   Obviously the degree could be in question but to say it is completely healthy seems dubious at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gawd, I hate the idea of defending the Cardinal medical staff but&#8230;.If there are bone chips it means there is something wrong with the ligament or they wouldn&#8217;t have occurred.   Obviously the degree could be in question but to say it is completely healthy seems dubious at best.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paletta and Pujols&#039; agent traveled to Birmingham for the surgery. Mozeliak confirmed that Paletta was there in case something more significant was needed than the planned removal of bone spurs and chips. Mozeliak said &quot;the thinking was if there was a reconstruction, Paletta would be a part of the process.&quot;

Whats the point of all of this ego soothing detail now?....Scrub up George, this is getting nasty....it goes on and on.  There was undoubtedly an insurance carrier there with his specialist too.  What a lumpy rug we have now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paletta and Pujols&#8217; agent traveled to Birmingham for the surgery. Mozeliak confirmed that Paletta was there in case something more significant was needed than the planned removal of bone spurs and chips. Mozeliak said &#8220;the thinking was if there was a reconstruction, Paletta would be a part of the process.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whats the point of all of this ego soothing detail now?&#8230;.Scrub up George, this is getting nasty&#8230;.it goes on and on.  There was undoubtedly an insurance carrier there with his specialist too.  What a lumpy rug we have now.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Albert did his famous Dominican interview over the phone.  Thats one thing that seems apparent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Albert did his famous Dominican interview over the phone.  Thats one thing that seems apparent.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert should have mentioned that a miracle occurred. His ligament, an anatomical structure which does not heal, was proclaimed  &quot;completely healthy&quot; by Drs. Paletta and Andrews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert should have mentioned that a miracle occurred. His ligament, an anatomical structure which does not heal, was proclaimed  &#8220;completely healthy&#8221; by Drs. Paletta and Andrews.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it it!  

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2009/10/pujols-after-surgery-cant-wait-to-see-you-in-jupiter


That pretty much covers it.  All legal and everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it it!  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2009/10/pujols-after-surgery-cant-wait-to-see-you-in-jupiter" rel="nofollow">http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2009/10/pujols-after-surgery-cant-wait-to-see-you-in-jupiter</a></p>
<p>That pretty much covers it.  All legal and everything.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wednesday&#039;s surgery will be performed by Cardinals team physician George Paletta and Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala....................................Rosenthal&#039;s leak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wednesday&#8217;s surgery will be performed by Cardinals team physician George Paletta and Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Rosenthal&#8217;s leak.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an example of the writing in question.  Joe Strauss;

&quot;Andrews examined results from an MRI before offering Tuesday&#039;s opinion.

Cardinals medical supervisor Dr. George Paletta accompanied Pujols, underscoring the possibility of a more complicated procedure.

Paletta typically does not accompany players on trips such as Tuesday&#039;s when only bone spurs or chips are suspected. Likewise, Pujols probably would have remained in St. Louis for such a procedure.&quot;

The total impression given is that Albert went with Paletta from St. Louis.   But of course it doesn&#039;t really say that, does it.  The trip was from Albert&#039;s hotel, or the airport? To  Andrews office.  I&#039;m speculating that Albert did this on his own initiative and that the Cardinals were there by contractual right.  Thus all the double speak.  I mean give me a break.  If his tendon was fine, the hustle was on last year.  For obvious reasons that have been talked about here often enough.  Lets watch and see if Albert makes a statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an example of the writing in question.  Joe Strauss;</p>
<p>&#8220;Andrews examined results from an MRI before offering Tuesday&#8217;s opinion.</p>
<p>Cardinals medical supervisor Dr. George Paletta accompanied Pujols, underscoring the possibility of a more complicated procedure.</p>
<p>Paletta typically does not accompany players on trips such as Tuesday&#8217;s when only bone spurs or chips are suspected. Likewise, Pujols probably would have remained in St. Louis for such a procedure.&#8221;</p>
<p>The total impression given is that Albert went with Paletta from St. Louis.   But of course it doesn&#8217;t really say that, does it.  The trip was from Albert&#8217;s hotel, or the airport? To  Andrews office.  I&#8217;m speculating that Albert did this on his own initiative and that the Cardinals were there by contractual right.  Thus all the double speak.  I mean give me a break.  If his tendon was fine, the hustle was on last year.  For obvious reasons that have been talked about here often enough.  Lets watch and see if Albert makes a statement.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be interesting to know if Albert Flew all the way to St Louis from the Dominican just to fly back to Birmingham with  Paletta.  Thats got to be knowable.  The answer to that question would say many things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be interesting to know if Albert Flew all the way to St Louis from the Dominican just to fly back to Birmingham with  Paletta.  Thats got to be knowable.  The answer to that question would say many things.</p>
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		<title>By: Axcion</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB and WCW, it doesn&#039;t look like the fans will get any answers to those questions.  Only Albert really and truly knows for sure and you couldn&#039;t pry that info out of him even if you were his mother.  So Westie, it&#039;s best to go back down to the beach and watch the sunset and comtemplate other meanings of life.  The meaning of Cardinal life just doesn&#039;t look like it&#039;s going to be solved any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB and WCW, it doesn&#8217;t look like the fans will get any answers to those questions.  Only Albert really and truly knows for sure and you couldn&#8217;t pry that info out of him even if you were his mother.  So Westie, it&#8217;s best to go back down to the beach and watch the sunset and comtemplate other meanings of life.  The meaning of Cardinal life just doesn&#8217;t look like it&#8217;s going to be solved any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In defense of Albert&#039;s surliness, read &lt;a href=http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2009/10/albert_pujols_contract_extension_hyperbole.php?page=1 rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this assessment&lt;/a&gt; of the latest Dominican interview flap. I have found it is usually not positive when people reporting the news become part of the news.

Having said that, I hope Jumbo and others who feel as he does can see clearly enough not to paint all media with the same wide brush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of Albert&#8217;s surliness, read <a href=http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2009/10/albert_pujols_contract_extension_hyperbole.php?page=1 rel="nofollow">this assessment</a> of the latest Dominican interview flap. I have found it is usually not positive when people reporting the news become part of the news.</p>
<p>Having said that, I hope Jumbo and others who feel as he does can see clearly enough not to paint all media with the same wide brush.</p>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets see if we can answer these questions.

1) Do Albert&#039;s problems stem from throwing of hitting too much?
2) Did Albert fly to Birmingham with Paletta, or from the Dominican as reported last week?
3) Since Albert is not talking to the press, are all reported details being generated by the organization to obscure other issues, and is their involvement a consequence of more complex contractual obligation and privileges?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets see if we can answer these questions.</p>
<p>1) Do Albert&#8217;s problems stem from throwing of hitting too much?<br />
2) Did Albert fly to Birmingham with Paletta, or from the Dominican as reported last week?<br />
3) Since Albert is not talking to the press, are all reported details being generated by the organization to obscure other issues, and is their involvement a consequence of more complex contractual obligation and privileges?</p>
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