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	<title>Comments on: Wellemeyer vs. Thompson as Cards’ fifth starter</title>
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		<title>By: My Pair of Cardinals Articles - OOTP Developments Forums</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3886</link>
		<dc:creator>My Pair of Cardinals Articles - OOTP Developments Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] criticism, so I figured that I&#039;d link to them here and see what people might have to say.  Wellemeyer vs. Thompson as Cards? fifth starter &#124; The Cardinal Nation blog  Wainwright?s increasingly effective curve &#124; The Cardinal Nation blog  Do they make sense? Are they [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] criticism, so I figured that I&#8217;d link to them here and see what people might have to say.  Wellemeyer vs. Thompson as Cards? fifth starter | The Cardinal Nation blog  Wainwright?s increasingly effective curve | The Cardinal Nation blog  Do they make sense? Are they [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3870</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoulder wasn&#039;t so bad this evening Jumbo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoulder wasn&#8217;t so bad this evening Jumbo.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3864</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We know Rick stumbled and hit a wall pretty hard.   He&#039;s a tough guy, so he has been trying to play through it.   But Ankiel is such a stud athlete you know something has to be wrong with his shoulder.    I dont think its an excuse.  Its real.   
He can play defense still, unlike Duncan, but I would rather liberate Schumaker to the OF and let Rick work on his shoulder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know Rick stumbled and hit a wall pretty hard.   He&#8217;s a tough guy, so he has been trying to play through it.   But Ankiel is such a stud athlete you know something has to be wrong with his shoulder.    I dont think its an excuse.  Its real.<br />
He can play defense still, unlike Duncan, but I would rather liberate Schumaker to the OF and let Rick work on his shoulder.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3863</link>
		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jumbo, I was thinking the shoulder was just what was being said.  If you are right I hope he doesnt hurt it worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jumbo, I was thinking the shoulder was just what was being said.  If you are right I hope he doesnt hurt it worse.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3861</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blingboy, Rick has not had a brain freeze.  His right shoulder is just messed up.   He should be DL&#039;d and receive treatment.   We should put a healthier player on the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blingboy, Rick has not had a brain freeze.  His right shoulder is just messed up.   He should be DL&#8217;d and receive treatment.   We should put a healthier player on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3860</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are limits to what TLR can do with these guys.  He brought in Aldrete to try to help Rasmus adjust to the majors, but Rasmus is headstrong.   He is going to play his game, right or wrong.   

We are spending $18MM on Glaus and K. Greene.   We need to squeeze some work out of them, for all that moola.   The good news: they do not want to lay around and collect unemployment like welfare bums, they want to contribute.  We need to harness their good attitudes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are limits to what TLR can do with these guys.  He brought in Aldrete to try to help Rasmus adjust to the majors, but Rasmus is headstrong.   He is going to play his game, right or wrong.   </p>
<p>We are spending $18MM on Glaus and K. Greene.   We need to squeeze some work out of them, for all that moola.   The good news: they do not want to lay around and collect unemployment like welfare bums, they want to contribute.  We need to harness their good attitudes.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3855</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jumbo,  Carp is struggling, Waino has a plus ID now, Lohse is struggling, Pienro is amazing right now and that must be preserved at all costs.  Welly is in the teeth of the beast.  These guys can&#039;t carry Glaus defensively in relation to his offensive production.  The fact that were even talking about it is a joke.   We need to close the door on the wannabe&#039;s, and get these pitchers set up and pumping.  Rasmus needs to be batting 5th and butting and stealing in front of yadi.  This, &quot;I&#039;m a doubles HR guy&quot; is a joke.  We need a run against Harrin.  Colby leads of the 7th without even thinking bunt.  LaRusa has stopped thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jumbo,  Carp is struggling, Waino has a plus ID now, Lohse is struggling, Pienro is amazing right now and that must be preserved at all costs.  Welly is in the teeth of the beast.  These guys can&#8217;t carry Glaus defensively in relation to his offensive production.  The fact that were even talking about it is a joke.   We need to close the door on the wannabe&#8217;s, and get these pitchers set up and pumping.  Rasmus needs to be batting 5th and butting and stealing in front of yadi.  This, &#8220;I&#8217;m a doubles HR guy&#8221; is a joke.  We need a run against Harrin.  Colby leads of the 7th without even thinking bunt.  LaRusa has stopped thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3854</link>
		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if not, couldn&#039;t he agree to go down for some kind of rehab or something.  He has to know that his best bet for a future is as a DH and if he can&#039;t hit he is done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if not, couldn&#8217;t he agree to go down for some kind of rehab or something.  He has to know that his best bet for a future is as a DH and if he can&#8217;t hit he is done.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3852</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Duncan has one option year remaining. Especially if Greene, Glaus, etc are ready soon, this would seem like a good time to use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Duncan has one option year remaining. Especially if Greene, Glaus, etc are ready soon, this would seem like a good time to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: blingboy</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3851</link>
		<dc:creator>blingboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responding to &quot;No more Duncan or Ankiel&quot;  I am afraid Ankiel had a brain freeze like he did with his pitching and it&#039;s all over.  Hope I&#039;m wrong.  Does anyone think Duncan would benefit from facing AAA or AA pitching everyday for a while.  He looks like he&#039;s never seen a baseball before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to &#8220;No more Duncan or Ankiel&#8221;  I am afraid Ankiel had a brain freeze like he did with his pitching and it&#8217;s all over.  Hope I&#8217;m wrong.  Does anyone think Duncan would benefit from facing AAA or AA pitching everyday for a while.  He looks like he&#8217;s never seen a baseball before.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3849</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westie,  A team does battle with the assets it has.  We have to squeeze what we can out of our guys.  Tony liked Sweet Lou&#039;s move, when he put a lefty reliever in LF for a batter.   If it can give us a chance to beat Lou, we are going to put a lifer 3rd baseman who cant throw in LF.
But I can&#039;t wait until Glaus is ready.  Its time for Stavinoha to get some starts in LF.   No more Duncan or Ankiel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westie,  A team does battle with the assets it has.  We have to squeeze what we can out of our guys.  Tony liked Sweet Lou&#8217;s move, when he put a lefty reliever in LF for a batter.   If it can give us a chance to beat Lou, we are going to put a lifer 3rd baseman who cant throw in LF.<br />
But I can&#8217;t wait until Glaus is ready.  Its time for Stavinoha to get some starts in LF.   No more Duncan or Ankiel.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3848</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jumbo, besides speed and no arm,  Troy has no durability in the outfield.  They may eat half his salary or more but this team needs speed.  Rasmus is in trouble now.  The starters will fold with no support.  The stress is mounting on Carp.  His mechanics are starting to get sloppy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jumbo, besides speed and no arm,  Troy has no durability in the outfield.  They may eat half his salary or more but this team needs speed.  Rasmus is in trouble now.  The starters will fold with no support.  The stress is mounting on Carp.  His mechanics are starting to get sloppy.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3847</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just putting together a post about Joel&#039;s hitting...</description>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3846</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TLR should think about starting Stavinoha in LF for the next two games in Houston.   Stavinoha is from Houston, so this might give him a lift.   The second game is against Wandy-Rod the LHP.   Its a good park for right swinging hitters.   If not Stavinoha, then Thurston.  Somebody other than Ankiel or Duncan.   

Or, we could try Pineiro in LF.   He hit well today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TLR should think about starting Stavinoha in LF for the next two games in Houston.   Stavinoha is from Houston, so this might give him a lift.   The second game is against Wandy-Rod the LHP.   Its a good park for right swinging hitters.   If not Stavinoha, then Thurston.  Somebody other than Ankiel or Duncan.   </p>
<p>Or, we could try Pineiro in LF.   He hit well today.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3845</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan began the season with a strong April, OPS over 900.  It was encouraging.  His health seemed restored to first half of 2007 state.   Since then, however, he has struggled with the bat.   Something will have to change at some point.  
At least the Cards have finally admitted Ankiel has a right shoulder issue.   He is now Chris&#039; defensive backup.  Ankiel&#039;s shoulder must really be sore to be regarded as less of a threat with the bat than Duncan.  
Its been a strange season.   Some great or very good performances, undercut by odd injuries (Glaus, Freese, Mather, KGreene, Ankiel).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan began the season with a strong April, OPS over 900.  It was encouraging.  His health seemed restored to first half of 2007 state.   Since then, however, he has struggled with the bat.   Something will have to change at some point.<br />
At least the Cards have finally admitted Ankiel has a right shoulder issue.   He is now Chris&#8217; defensive backup.  Ankiel&#8217;s shoulder must really be sore to be regarded as less of a threat with the bat than Duncan.<br />
Its been a strange season.   Some great or very good performances, undercut by odd injuries (Glaus, Freese, Mather, KGreene, Ankiel).</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3844</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glaus will play LF if this makes us any better.  If he is a liability in LF, then he may be limited to just pinch-hitter.   

If Glaus hits well, then it is not impossible that we might trade him to an AL team in need at DH, because of his unusual circumstance of being a good hitter who has an arm problem.  However, the chance of this happenning seems small, because such a deal may not be easy to find.  

The Cards should be flexible and play anyone who shows signs of life.  Stavinoha could get more ABs.  If Craig or Jay get hot, they could get ML try-outs.  If DeRosa hits, K Greene would not be so needed.   If Freese bounces back, he is another option for 3B.   But if K Greene plays well in the minors and there is a need, he could be tried at 3B, SS, or LF. 

The bottom line: the Cards need more offense from 3B and LF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glaus will play LF if this makes us any better.  If he is a liability in LF, then he may be limited to just pinch-hitter.   </p>
<p>If Glaus hits well, then it is not impossible that we might trade him to an AL team in need at DH, because of his unusual circumstance of being a good hitter who has an arm problem.  However, the chance of this happenning seems small, because such a deal may not be easy to find.  </p>
<p>The Cards should be flexible and play anyone who shows signs of life.  Stavinoha could get more ABs.  If Craig or Jay get hot, they could get ML try-outs.  If DeRosa hits, K Greene would not be so needed.   If Freese bounces back, he is another option for 3B.   But if K Greene plays well in the minors and there is a need, he could be tried at 3B, SS, or LF. </p>
<p>The bottom line: the Cards need more offense from 3B and LF.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glaus is playing OF just for the scouts from the AL......  Duncan&#039;s time is up now.  These were his last chances.  One thing to remember here is that things fundamentally haven&#039;t changed.  We could buy a playoff birth with a few moves.  If you don&#039;t want Pujols, you stand pat because thats what sends him on his way on his prerogative..  The snake has bit DeRosa, poor guy.  That pop up hurt him.  2 runs against that hodge podge won&#039;t cut it.  One more time.  Greene can&#039;t be cured with pharmaceuticals.  He has also become bad for the bench.   He can&#039;t help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glaus is playing OF just for the scouts from the AL&#8230;&#8230;  Duncan&#8217;s time is up now.  These were his last chances.  One thing to remember here is that things fundamentally haven&#8217;t changed.  We could buy a playoff birth with a few moves.  If you don&#8217;t want Pujols, you stand pat because thats what sends him on his way on his prerogative..  The snake has bit DeRosa, poor guy.  That pop up hurt him.  2 runs against that hodge podge won&#8217;t cut it.  One more time.  Greene can&#8217;t be cured with pharmaceuticals.  He has also become bad for the bench.   He can&#8217;t help.</p>
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		<title>By: Nutlaw</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3841</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember back when Pujols was underhanding balls over to Edmonds while playing left field. It wasn&#039;t pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember back when Pujols was underhanding balls over to Edmonds while playing left field. It wasn&#8217;t pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3840</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freese made his first rehad appearance today.  Between DeRosa, K Greene, and Freese, we are hoping to come up with a 3rd baseman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freese made his first rehad appearance today.  Between DeRosa, K Greene, and Freese, we are hoping to come up with a 3rd baseman.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3838</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Cards would NEVER put Glaus in LF, if he could play 3B.  He has played 3B his entire career.   If he does not return to 3B, his arm strength does not allow him to play there.     

The best place to station someone with weak arm strength is 1B.   But the position is occupied with Pujols.  

The Cards have no alternative but to fallback to the next position for weak arm strength, LF.   A LF can lob the ball to a cutoff man.   Lot of left-fielders have been poor defensively: Adam Dunn, Manny Ramirez, Chris Duncan, Lou Brock, plenty more.  Teams station OFs with strong arms in RF and CF.   

DeRosa has the arm strength to make the throws from 3B.   His issue is different, impaired swinging because of a problem in his left (non-throwing) wrist.   I have no idea if he will be able to successfully collect hits with this injury, which will require an operation, but for now he can field 3B, unlike Glaus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cards would NEVER put Glaus in LF, if he could play 3B.  He has played 3B his entire career.   If he does not return to 3B, his arm strength does not allow him to play there.     </p>
<p>The best place to station someone with weak arm strength is 1B.   But the position is occupied with Pujols.  </p>
<p>The Cards have no alternative but to fallback to the next position for weak arm strength, LF.   A LF can lob the ball to a cutoff man.   Lot of left-fielders have been poor defensively: Adam Dunn, Manny Ramirez, Chris Duncan, Lou Brock, plenty more.  Teams station OFs with strong arms in RF and CF.   </p>
<p>DeRosa has the arm strength to make the throws from 3B.   His issue is different, impaired swinging because of a problem in his left (non-throwing) wrist.   I have no idea if he will be able to successfully collect hits with this injury, which will require an operation, but for now he can field 3B, unlike Glaus.</p>
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		<title>By: Nutlaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nutlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but DeRosa can play 3B, 2B, or the outfield. He&#039;s the only one likely to bump Glaus from third base, but it makes a lot more sense to put DeRosa in LF and Glaus at 3B rather than the other way around. Yes, third base requires strong throws, but the outfield requires even stronger ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but DeRosa can play 3B, 2B, or the outfield. He&#8217;s the only one likely to bump Glaus from third base, but it makes a lot more sense to put DeRosa in LF and Glaus at 3B rather than the other way around. Yes, third base requires strong throws, but the outfield requires even stronger ones.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3836</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont forget about Freese either.   If his foot injury becomes healed, then he could return to the fray.  

A baseball season is long.   It can be a war of attrition.   The Cards will try to make full use of the players available in their system.  Anything is possible.   If Glaus becomes playable, then he may find himself in LF.   If Freese returns, he can play 3B.  If Khalil Greene gets a new approach, he may be stationed at 3B.   If DeRosa can play through his injury, he can play 3B; if he cannot, he can go on the DL.   T. Greene, Barden, Hoffpauir, Hawksworth, Mortensen, Todd, Robinson could get called back.   Scherer, Solano and Jay could get a tryout.   Pagnozzi should get called up in September, if not before.  Lots of possibilities.  The Cards will take them a game at a time and juggle the roster in search of any advantages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont forget about Freese either.   If his foot injury becomes healed, then he could return to the fray.  </p>
<p>A baseball season is long.   It can be a war of attrition.   The Cards will try to make full use of the players available in their system.  Anything is possible.   If Glaus becomes playable, then he may find himself in LF.   If Freese returns, he can play 3B.  If Khalil Greene gets a new approach, he may be stationed at 3B.   If DeRosa can play through his injury, he can play 3B; if he cannot, he can go on the DL.   T. Greene, Barden, Hoffpauir, Hawksworth, Mortensen, Todd, Robinson could get called back.   Scherer, Solano and Jay could get a tryout.   Pagnozzi should get called up in September, if not before.  Lots of possibilities.  The Cards will take them a game at a time and juggle the roster in search of any advantages.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3835</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is what we know about Glaus.   He incurred a bum shoulder.   Either it got worse or its persistence indicated a problem.   So in January, we learned we were without a 3rd baseman.   Glaus had an operation.  There were overoptimistic projections about his return by May (bringing to mind past optimistic thoughts about how Rolen could play through).   In any event, rationality prevailed this time, and Glaus rehabbed at home.   Recently Troy has become playable.   The catch, however, is his swing is better than his throwing arm.   Playing 3B requires strong throws.  
Now Troy could play 1B, but we already have a good 1Bman (who also was a 3rd baseman who suffered an arm injury).   So there is not a lot of playing time at 1B.   
The next best place to put someone like Mr. Glaus is where we previously stationed Albert and current station Chris Duncan, left field.   

Ankiel has a right shoulder problem.   It deserves careful examination and realistic diagnosis, since Rick just playing with it is not working out.   Thus, at some point, we could put Rick on the DL so he could have an operation or shoulder-strengthening exercise.   Since his value in approaching free agency would be low, Boras could consider a one year deal with St Louis, in hopes his client, if returned to health by next year, can have a fine season in 2010. 

The Khalil story is not necessarily over for 2009.   He and the Cards are trying a new theapeutic approach.   Since it is exploratory, there is no time line for his return to duty.   But since we could use his bat, and he does not need an operation like DeRosa, don&#039;t count him out.

Rasmus has loads of coaching resources: Hal; Aldrete; and/or his Dad.  

Yes we have offensive issues.   This is why we paid out so much talent for DeRosa and why it is shame that Fate has struck a cruel blow with his wrist.   So the 2009 season is going to be a long hard slog, no cake walk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is what we know about Glaus.   He incurred a bum shoulder.   Either it got worse or its persistence indicated a problem.   So in January, we learned we were without a 3rd baseman.   Glaus had an operation.  There were overoptimistic projections about his return by May (bringing to mind past optimistic thoughts about how Rolen could play through).   In any event, rationality prevailed this time, and Glaus rehabbed at home.   Recently Troy has become playable.   The catch, however, is his swing is better than his throwing arm.   Playing 3B requires strong throws.<br />
Now Troy could play 1B, but we already have a good 1Bman (who also was a 3rd baseman who suffered an arm injury).   So there is not a lot of playing time at 1B.<br />
The next best place to put someone like Mr. Glaus is where we previously stationed Albert and current station Chris Duncan, left field.   </p>
<p>Ankiel has a right shoulder problem.   It deserves careful examination and realistic diagnosis, since Rick just playing with it is not working out.   Thus, at some point, we could put Rick on the DL so he could have an operation or shoulder-strengthening exercise.   Since his value in approaching free agency would be low, Boras could consider a one year deal with St Louis, in hopes his client, if returned to health by next year, can have a fine season in 2010. </p>
<p>The Khalil story is not necessarily over for 2009.   He and the Cards are trying a new theapeutic approach.   Since it is exploratory, there is no time line for his return to duty.   But since we could use his bat, and he does not need an operation like DeRosa, don&#8217;t count him out.</p>
<p>Rasmus has loads of coaching resources: Hal; Aldrete; and/or his Dad.  </p>
<p>Yes we have offensive issues.   This is why we paid out so much talent for DeRosa and why it is shame that Fate has struck a cruel blow with his wrist.   So the 2009 season is going to be a long hard slog, no cake walk.</p>
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		<title>By: Nutlaw</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3834</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Glaus&#039; arm is messed up to trouble him playing third base, how do they expect him to be able to handle throws from the outfield? I&#039;m confused by their behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Glaus&#8217; arm is messed up to trouble him playing third base, how do they expect him to be able to handle throws from the outfield? I&#8217;m confused by their behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3833</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The placement of Glaus as an outfielder is so revealing Jumbo as to what Mo/Bd are thinking.  If they can&#039;t move him, they will bring him up anyhow.  The Rick story is over.  The Khalil story is over.  Those are now just delaying tactics.  The real concern is how poorly this team played yesterday.  Colby is in desperate need of a roll.  He needs to be coached.  We need to score 6+ today to have any chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The placement of Glaus as an outfielder is so revealing Jumbo as to what Mo/Bd are thinking.  If they can&#8217;t move him, they will bring him up anyhow.  The Rick story is over.  The Khalil story is over.  Those are now just delaying tactics.  The real concern is how poorly this team played yesterday.  Colby is in desperate need of a roll.  He needs to be coached.  We need to score 6+ today to have any chance.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3832</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westie

Rick is not necessarily &quot;out of here.&quot; He is having a poor walk season. It is not impossible the Cards/Boras could collaborate on a one year deal for 2010 to see if Rick can get back on track.    

Rick has long been able to hit for power.  He enjoyed doing so when a pitcher.   If having problems this year, his violent collision with a fence is a plausible contributing reason, not a &quot;courtesy&quot; or by implication a lie.   

You offer your opinion Chris Duncan has a good swing.  This could answer my question as to why he hit well in 2006/early 2007.  
 
You seem to suggest that his good swing is undercut by playing near his father.   This theory would not explain why Chris could succeed in 2006 near his Dad, but struggle in 2009 near his Dad.  

Another possible explanation is the metal disk inserted in his neck may have got him able to play again, a welcome thing, but Chris may have lost a tiny bit.   There is probably a fine line between being good versus mediocre.  If a player loses a little bit, he can drop back to the pack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westie</p>
<p>Rick is not necessarily &#8220;out of here.&#8221; He is having a poor walk season. It is not impossible the Cards/Boras could collaborate on a one year deal for 2010 to see if Rick can get back on track.    </p>
<p>Rick has long been able to hit for power.  He enjoyed doing so when a pitcher.   If having problems this year, his violent collision with a fence is a plausible contributing reason, not a &#8220;courtesy&#8221; or by implication a lie.   </p>
<p>You offer your opinion Chris Duncan has a good swing.  This could answer my question as to why he hit well in 2006/early 2007.  </p>
<p>You seem to suggest that his good swing is undercut by playing near his father.   This theory would not explain why Chris could succeed in 2006 near his Dad, but struggle in 2009 near his Dad.  </p>
<p>Another possible explanation is the metal disk inserted in his neck may have got him able to play again, a welcome thing, but Chris may have lost a tiny bit.   There is probably a fine line between being good versus mediocre.  If a player loses a little bit, he can drop back to the pack.</p>
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		<title>By: Axcion</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3809</link>
		<dc:creator>Axcion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Nutlaw; what GM in their right mind looks at won/loss.  If they did, no one would take Pineiro in a trade because of his record and we all know how absurd that is.  Baseball&#039;s win/loss system is the biggest joke in professional sport anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Nutlaw; what GM in their right mind looks at won/loss.  If they did, no one would take Pineiro in a trade because of his record and we all know how absurd that is.  Baseball&#8217;s win/loss system is the biggest joke in professional sport anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3799</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jumbo, I am encouraged by your question marks.  Your attempts at creating or extending the function of a rhetorical question, really often act as obstacle or impediment whose placement illuminate the perceptual challenges you are facing.  Let me try this;

1)  The same problems Rick has with his swing he had with pitching.  There is a disconnect between his emotional and physical self image.  This resulted probably in a childhood that ignored some learning impediments (disabilities) while highlighting a highly co-dependent relationship with his father who if I recall had some real self-esteem issues.  His denial of a problem is the foundation for his technical inflexibility.  He is not evolved enough as an athlete to deal with technical challenges.  He only knows the feeling, and this is denied him by emotional instability.  This game is evolving and once you have people recognizing your problems, scouts and coach&#039;s will nail you.  Dave is not the only one doing pitch sequencing.  I have written about his swing, look it up.

2)  Chris has a good swing.  Playing for another team could show that.  He will never play around daddy again.  He listens to the table talk.  Tony knows Rick in out of here.  He is giving him every opportunity to stay in the game because he has been told that he is gone from the Cardinals.  Suggesting injury as a possible problem is a courtesy.  I have made a lot of money.

3)  Welly is lost in his own experience.  The power of his addiction is related to the growing power of the medium.  By the looks of Lohse on Sunday, there&#039;s trouble a brewing all around.

4)  Tony negotiated Dave&#039;s contract Jumbo.  Do you think it was him that suggested the option?
That was Mo, in case Tony developed a leverage position somehow.  He got a nice raise and Mo was just covering his ass against another gouge.  If you think about that meeting, and its result, you might infer a lot about  its tone and content.  Because of what obviously wasn&#039;t talked about, you also might infer that Mo was feeling a little exposed about its content and threw in the mutual option because it created camouflage for the Pujols plan.  One way or another, there are multiple players on the court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jumbo, I am encouraged by your question marks.  Your attempts at creating or extending the function of a rhetorical question, really often act as obstacle or impediment whose placement illuminate the perceptual challenges you are facing.  Let me try this;</p>
<p>1)  The same problems Rick has with his swing he had with pitching.  There is a disconnect between his emotional and physical self image.  This resulted probably in a childhood that ignored some learning impediments (disabilities) while highlighting a highly co-dependent relationship with his father who if I recall had some real self-esteem issues.  His denial of a problem is the foundation for his technical inflexibility.  He is not evolved enough as an athlete to deal with technical challenges.  He only knows the feeling, and this is denied him by emotional instability.  This game is evolving and once you have people recognizing your problems, scouts and coach&#8217;s will nail you.  Dave is not the only one doing pitch sequencing.  I have written about his swing, look it up.</p>
<p>2)  Chris has a good swing.  Playing for another team could show that.  He will never play around daddy again.  He listens to the table talk.  Tony knows Rick in out of here.  He is giving him every opportunity to stay in the game because he has been told that he is gone from the Cardinals.  Suggesting injury as a possible problem is a courtesy.  I have made a lot of money.</p>
<p>3)  Welly is lost in his own experience.  The power of his addiction is related to the growing power of the medium.  By the looks of Lohse on Sunday, there&#8217;s trouble a brewing all around.</p>
<p>4)  Tony negotiated Dave&#8217;s contract Jumbo.  Do you think it was him that suggested the option?<br />
That was Mo, in case Tony developed a leverage position somehow.  He got a nice raise and Mo was just covering his ass against another gouge.  If you think about that meeting, and its result, you might infer a lot about  its tone and content.  Because of what obviously wasn&#8217;t talked about, you also might infer that Mo was feeling a little exposed about its content and threw in the mutual option because it created camouflage for the Pujols plan.  One way or another, there are multiple players on the court.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3793</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westie, here is what I would find helpful.   Ankiel hit 43 homers at AAA/StL in 2007.  In 2008, he hit very well, until suffering a sports hernia or something, which warranted an operation.   What technical differences do you notice between his swing today versus his swing, when he was achieving great results?
Similarly, Kid Duncan, he swung well in the back half of 06 and first half of 07, before suffering twin serious injuries, both ultimately requiring operations.   What are the technical qualities in the swing that explain why he did well in 06/07 and how has the swing changed for the worse, today?
What X-ray machine enables you to know that though Ankiel ran into a wall, his right shoulder is not sore, he is just lying, and he is instead suffering an &quot;identity problem&quot;?   If you could really read minds, you could make some serious money with that kind of gift.   
Welly could be having life problems.   A lot of folks have life problems, until we move to the great beyond, so no reason for Welly to be an exception.   Why was he able to master these challenges last year and not this year?   
How do you know Daddy Dunc will be gone next year?   Are you the first person he confides in?   Why would Daddy confide in you, since you then spill the beans about these precious, privileged secrets for the entire Cardinal Nation to see?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westie, here is what I would find helpful.   Ankiel hit 43 homers at AAA/StL in 2007.  In 2008, he hit very well, until suffering a sports hernia or something, which warranted an operation.   What technical differences do you notice between his swing today versus his swing, when he was achieving great results?<br />
Similarly, Kid Duncan, he swung well in the back half of 06 and first half of 07, before suffering twin serious injuries, both ultimately requiring operations.   What are the technical qualities in the swing that explain why he did well in 06/07 and how has the swing changed for the worse, today?<br />
What X-ray machine enables you to know that though Ankiel ran into a wall, his right shoulder is not sore, he is just lying, and he is instead suffering an &#8220;identity problem&#8221;?   If you could really read minds, you could make some serious money with that kind of gift.<br />
Welly could be having life problems.   A lot of folks have life problems, until we move to the great beyond, so no reason for Welly to be an exception.   Why was he able to master these challenges last year and not this year?<br />
How do you know Daddy Dunc will be gone next year?   Are you the first person he confides in?   Why would Daddy confide in you, since you then spill the beans about these precious, privileged secrets for the entire Cardinal Nation to see?</p>
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		<title>By: Nutlaw</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/07/12/wellemeyer-vs-thompson-as-cards-fifth-starter/#comment-3792</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any GMs making trades based upon won-loss records in this day and age need to be quickly fired or sent off in a time machine to twenty or more years ago. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any GMs making trades based upon won-loss records in this day and age need to be quickly fired or sent off in a time machine to twenty or more years ago. <img src='http://thecardinalnationblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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