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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3208</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the bullpen was unsettled and Carp out, TLR wanted an extra pitcher.  Understandably so.  The Braves had DFA&#039;s Boyer.   The Cards bid Barton, then hitting poorly in early going at Memphis.   He served his function last year as a platoon OF and was now lost amid the swell of our many players.   
Baseball is a war and there are casualties.  We had to sacrifice Barton for the pen.  Now Boyer is taken from us.  The customary hardships of war.  Do not fear, fans, Mo and Tony know the way forward for our intrepid squad.   .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the bullpen was unsettled and Carp out, TLR wanted an extra pitcher.  Understandably so.  The Braves had DFA&#8217;s Boyer.   The Cards bid Barton, then hitting poorly in early going at Memphis.   He served his function last year as a platoon OF and was now lost amid the swell of our many players.<br />
Baseball is a war and there are casualties.  We had to sacrifice Barton for the pen.  Now Boyer is taken from us.  The customary hardships of war.  Do not fear, fans, Mo and Tony know the way forward for our intrepid squad.   .</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3207</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has nothing to do with Boyer Jumbo.  Barton probably is in line before Stavinoa if he is here.  They cleared him out.  He was offered, not requested by the Braves.  I could care less, but it does appears that his rule 5 function last year was maybe about being a counterfeit Fabergé egg........maybe.   The wizard is exposed again I have a feeling.  How about Luddy and Rick.  Two hits.......... and I would say Lurch wasn&#039;t exactly on his game either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has nothing to do with Boyer Jumbo.  Barton probably is in line before Stavinoa if he is here.  They cleared him out.  He was offered, not requested by the Braves.  I could care less, but it does appears that his rule 5 function last year was maybe about being a counterfeit Fabergé egg&#8230;&#8230;..maybe.   The wizard is exposed again I have a feeling.  How about Luddy and Rick.  Two hits&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. and I would say Lurch wasn&#8217;t exactly on his game either.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3206</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boyer was insurance early in the season, since we were worried about how the pitching staff. would unfold   Boyer was 8th man insurance in a 7 man pen.  Now the roster needs some changes, we must reclaim his slot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boyer was insurance early in the season, since we were worried about how the pitching staff. would unfold   Boyer was 8th man insurance in a 7 man pen.  Now the roster needs some changes, we must reclaim his slot.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3203</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its going to get better than that Brian!  He can&#039;t possibly clear waivers.  Brian Barton....poof!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its going to get better than that Brian!  He can&#8217;t possibly clear waivers.  Brian Barton&#8230;.poof!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3198</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Jumbo, apparently Boyer did not exceed the Cardinals&#039; expectations since he was DFA&#039;ed Thursday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Jumbo, apparently Boyer did not exceed the Cardinals&#8217; expectations since he was DFA&#8217;ed Thursday.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3197</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Player 	AB 	R 	H 	RBI 	TB 	BB 	K 	AVG 	OBP 	SLG
S. Schumaker, 2B 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.301 	.347 	.420
C. Rasmus, CF 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.248 	.314 	.438
A. Pujols, 1B 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.343 	.469 	.680
R. Ludwick, RF 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.240 	.307 	.464
R. Ankiel, LF 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.223 	.296 	.369
Y. Molina, C 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.263 	.346 	.356
J. Thurston, 3B 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.267 	.377 	.435
C. Carpenter, P 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.000 	.000 	.000
B. Ryan, SS 	0 	


Well gang, Tony avoids criticism with Chris but takes Luddy and Duncan to the crossroads.  Looks to me like he is trying to force Mo/BDs hand on a trade if these guys can&#039;t cut it..  Luddy will have to go to right field to have a chance.  Ankiel will be pitched away also.  He could have avoided confrontation, but chose it at the expense of Carp.  Lets watch.</description>
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S. Schumaker, 2B 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.301 	.347 	.420<br />
C. Rasmus, CF 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.248 	.314 	.438<br />
A. Pujols, 1B 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.343 	.469 	.680<br />
R. Ludwick, RF 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.240 	.307 	.464<br />
R. Ankiel, LF 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.223 	.296 	.369<br />
Y. Molina, C 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.263 	.346 	.356<br />
J. Thurston, 3B 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.267 	.377 	.435<br />
C. Carpenter, P 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.000 	.000 	.000<br />
B. Ryan, SS 	0 	</p>
<p>Well gang, Tony avoids criticism with Chris but takes Luddy and Duncan to the crossroads.  Looks to me like he is trying to force Mo/BDs hand on a trade if these guys can&#8217;t cut it..  Luddy will have to go to right field to have a chance.  Ankiel will be pitched away also.  He could have avoided confrontation, but chose it at the expense of Carp.  Lets watch.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3188</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the best to everyone then............</description>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3187</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westie, I defer to TLR on the daily lineup.   He&#039;s my go-to guy on that topic.   I let Jeff handle my recruitment of amateurs, TLR manage the MLers, Daddy Dunc advise my pitchers, and I like the job Hal does.   
You are becoming my go-to guy for psychological insights, since you observe the patients while they run around in uniform and try to hit or catch the little white ball.   I have never had a psych advisor before, so we will see how it turns out, in the fullness of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westie, I defer to TLR on the daily lineup.   He&#8217;s my go-to guy on that topic.   I let Jeff handle my recruitment of amateurs, TLR manage the MLers, Daddy Dunc advise my pitchers, and I like the job Hal does.<br />
You are becoming my go-to guy for psychological insights, since you observe the patients while they run around in uniform and try to hit or catch the little white ball.   I have never had a psych advisor before, so we will see how it turns out, in the fullness of time.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3186</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another positive amid the gloom.   Joe Mather is a fine player setback by a hamate injury last summer and he had a hand operation recently.   Yesterday and today, he has finally had some hits at Memphis.   If Joe begins to bounce-back, he could become a nice contributor to the ML team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another positive amid the gloom.   Joe Mather is a fine player setback by a hamate injury last summer and he had a hand operation recently.   Yesterday and today, he has finally had some hits at Memphis.   If Joe begins to bounce-back, he could become a nice contributor to the ML team.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jumbo.  Care to speculate on tomorrow&#039;s lineup?  Tony will be desperate to protect Carpenter.  Rasmus will be hit 2nd.  Maybe Stava batting 4th.  I expect some moves overnight.  They might shut down Lohse to clear his system of Anti-inflammatory just to see whats wrong with him.  I see Rick hits a meaningless double.  He is psycho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jumbo.  Care to speculate on tomorrow&#8217;s lineup?  Tony will be desperate to protect Carpenter.  Rasmus will be hit 2nd.  Maybe Stava batting 4th.  I expect some moves overnight.  They might shut down Lohse to clear his system of Anti-inflammatory just to see whats wrong with him.  I see Rick hits a meaningless double.  He is psycho.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3184</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boyer exceeded my expectations.  I leave it that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boyer exceeded my expectations.  I leave it that.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3182</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three runs still crossed the plate during Boyer&#039;s first two innings. After that, he was fine, but the game felt much different at 4-0 than it was at 1-0 when Lohse departed. So I am not celebrating. These uninspiring Reds are now 2-1 this series. Cards don&#039;t look like a first-place club.

Update: Milwaukee won, so the Cards are not in first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three runs still crossed the plate during Boyer&#8217;s first two innings. After that, he was fine, but the game felt much different at 4-0 than it was at 1-0 when Lohse departed. So I am not celebrating. These uninspiring Reds are now 2-1 this series. Cards don&#8217;t look like a first-place club.</p>
<p>Update: Milwaukee won, so the Cards are not in first place.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3181</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, good job by Boyer to eat 5 innings in 56 pitches.  Who would have thunk it?   OTOH, the Reds are not the Big Red Machine of yore.  

I wonder if we could DL Ankiel?  We could let Rick do a minor league re-hab to try to find some hits in his bat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, good job by Boyer to eat 5 innings in 56 pitches.  Who would have thunk it?   OTOH, the Reds are not the Big Red Machine of yore.  </p>
<p>I wonder if we could DL Ankiel?  We could let Rick do a minor league re-hab to try to find some hits in his bat.</p>
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		<title>By: Nutlaw</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3180</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you know, the Braves just cut Glavine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you know, the Braves just cut Glavine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nutlaw</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3179</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, JMo. I just posted the same thought in a Hot News item on Scout. If another starter is needed, Thompson deserves another chance. Little did we know it could happen so soon, but the small bumps and bruises are starting to add up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, JMo. I just posted the same thought in a Hot News item on Scout. If another starter is needed, Thompson deserves another chance. Little did we know it could happen so soon, but the small bumps and bruises are starting to add up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jmodene</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3177</link>
		<dc:creator>Jmodene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad may be getting another chance sooner than we  had thought; Lohse just left the game in the third with an apparent injury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad may be getting another chance sooner than we  had thought; Lohse just left the game in the third with an apparent injury.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/06/03/cards-sixth-starters-are-delivering/#comment-3170</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t PJ a finesse pitcher Nut?  Good motion, lives on location?  If we were a power house offensive club like the  Phillies, heck yes.  Until then, Joels sinker is about all we can support....sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t PJ a finesse pitcher Nut?  Good motion, lives on location?  If we were a power house offensive club like the  Phillies, heck yes.  Until then, Joels sinker is about all we can support&#8230;.sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Nutlaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nutlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to play devil&#039;s advocate, Boggs has had a moderately terrible season in AAA with a 5.57 ERA and 1.81 WHIP in 21 IP. Walters has looked considerably stronger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to play devil&#8217;s advocate, Boggs has had a moderately terrible season in AAA with a 5.57 ERA and 1.81 WHIP in 21 IP. Walters has looked considerably stronger.</p>
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		<title>By: ball in play</title>
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		<dc:creator>ball in play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would much rather use wellemeyer and his salary to acquire any FA-to-be bat (derosa), or pineiro for that matter.

the &quot;6th SP&#039;s&quot; have outpitched him. you might be able to get 2 more outs per game out of welly, but what we&#039;d be giving up in our &quot;6th SP&#039;s&quot; is more valuable long term than FA&#039;s-to-be.
 
and then there&#039;s the payroll difference in how much STL would have to assume if dealing just minimum salaried players or thompson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would much rather use wellemeyer and his salary to acquire any FA-to-be bat (derosa), or pineiro for that matter.</p>
<p>the &#8220;6th SP&#8217;s&#8221; have outpitched him. you might be able to get 2 more outs per game out of welly, but what we&#8217;d be giving up in our &#8220;6th SP&#8217;s&#8221; is more valuable long term than FA&#8217;s-to-be.</p>
<p>and then there&#8217;s the payroll difference in how much STL would have to assume if dealing just minimum salaried players or thompson.</p>
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		<title>By: ForesterShane</title>
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		<dc:creator>ForesterShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boggs has pitched 20.1 out of 36 innnings in his 4 starts, but allowed 8 of the 9 runs, the bullepen has came through for him. (as well as the offense)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boggs has pitched 20.1 out of 36 innnings in his 4 starts, but allowed 8 of the 9 runs, the bullepen has came through for him. (as well as the offense)</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought his breaking pitch worked well today.  His delivery loans itself to that inside attack with the breaking pitch away.  Sawed off quite a few Cincinnati bats today.  He wasn&#039;t getting many breaks from his defense me thinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought his breaking pitch worked well today.  His delivery loans itself to that inside attack with the breaking pitch away.  Sawed off quite a few Cincinnati bats today.  He wasn&#8217;t getting many breaks from his defense me thinks.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
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		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thompson occupies a niche as an infrequent starter or long reliever.  He can get rusty as anyone would and need to go down to Memphis to sharpen his pitching skills.   However, he is pretty well suited to this niche role.  He is an asset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thompson occupies a niche as an infrequent starter or long reliever.  He can get rusty as anyone would and need to go down to Memphis to sharpen his pitching skills.   However, he is pretty well suited to this niche role.  He is an asset.</p>
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