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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/02/08/cards-minor-matters-february-8/#comment-890</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 04:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get a starter for a year Nutlaw.  How often is that possible.  This is good year to win.  Cheaply. Holliday was a ruse to get to 85.  He can do it with by letting Greene walk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get a starter for a year Nutlaw.  How often is that possible.  This is good year to win.  Cheaply. Holliday was a ruse to get to 85.  He can do it with by letting Greene walk.</p>
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		<title>By: Nutlaw</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/02/08/cards-minor-matters-february-8/#comment-889</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, if the Cards wanted to pay for an upgrade, they could have and could still do so. It&#039;s not looking terribly likely. They&#039;ve gone with bargain signings.

The whole Holliday thing was silly to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, if the Cards wanted to pay for an upgrade, they could have and could still do so. It&#8217;s not looking terribly likely. They&#8217;ve gone with bargain signings.</p>
<p>The whole Holliday thing was silly to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/02/08/cards-minor-matters-february-8/#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love you Jumbo.</description>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/02/08/cards-minor-matters-february-8/#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Cards tried to get TLR some stars he wanted for 09.  Holliday was in play, but Beane ponied up an offer the Rockies liked more; such things happen.   TLR wanted a lefty closer so the Cards made a strong offer to Fuentes, but he wanted to move to California and that was the deciding factor.   
Despite little snippets from Tony, on balance he is a loyal company man, a leader of our team.  Tony is reinvigorated and looking forward to 2009.   As should we all.   Let the games begin!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cards tried to get TLR some stars he wanted for 09.  Holliday was in play, but Beane ponied up an offer the Rockies liked more; such things happen.   TLR wanted a lefty closer so the Cards made a strong offer to Fuentes, but he wanted to move to California and that was the deciding factor.<br />
Despite little snippets from Tony, on balance he is a loyal company man, a leader of our team.  Tony is reinvigorated and looking forward to 2009.   As should we all.   Let the games begin!!</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/02/08/cards-minor-matters-february-8/#comment-881</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Up lift is to stop the crap Jumbeau.  I want to see the kids play!  I don&#039;t need Tony.  I don&#039;t need Albert.  You seem to think that because of your spin responsibilities, that you understand the full arena in which you do this dance.  Tony wants to win.  All this crap is coming at him at kind of a sad time.  The end of his coaching career.  DeWitt can easily make his 85million number next year.  Its simple.  To the extent that he is not taking a reasonable approach this years is telling quite another story. It exposes possibly,I think quite a different plan.  Pujols isn&#039;t going to go along with the possible scapegoating of Tony.  And Tony will make waves.  He may become difficult.  What if that smoke screen is what BD is interested in creating?  What if he is looking for a clean slate, or a slate that serves all his personal needs or not at all.  He will be preparing for a team without Pujols, at the same time he is defining a team with Pujols.  His way.  I have been talking about this for 6 months.  It is slowly manifesting.  De Witt is good.  He is smart.  He is not a sportsman.  I enjoy a good play, a good pitch of catch.  Winning is Ok, and profitable sometimes.  I hate to be apart of a Prison Rape scene at the hands of Zambrano and Piella.  Yes, I don&#039;t think DeWitt is even staying in our wing of this prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Up lift is to stop the crap Jumbeau.  I want to see the kids play!  I don&#8217;t need Tony.  I don&#8217;t need Albert.  You seem to think that because of your spin responsibilities, that you understand the full arena in which you do this dance.  Tony wants to win.  All this crap is coming at him at kind of a sad time.  The end of his coaching career.  DeWitt can easily make his 85million number next year.  Its simple.  To the extent that he is not taking a reasonable approach this years is telling quite another story. It exposes possibly,I think quite a different plan.  Pujols isn&#8217;t going to go along with the possible scapegoating of Tony.  And Tony will make waves.  He may become difficult.  What if that smoke screen is what BD is interested in creating?  What if he is looking for a clean slate, or a slate that serves all his personal needs or not at all.  He will be preparing for a team without Pujols, at the same time he is defining a team with Pujols.  His way.  I have been talking about this for 6 months.  It is slowly manifesting.  De Witt is good.  He is smart.  He is not a sportsman.  I enjoy a good play, a good pitch of catch.  Winning is Ok, and profitable sometimes.  I hate to be apart of a Prison Rape scene at the hands of Zambrano and Piella.  Yes, I don&#8217;t think DeWitt is even staying in our wing of this prison.</p>
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		<title>By: JumboShrimp</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/02/08/cards-minor-matters-february-8/#comment-878</link>
		<dc:creator>JumboShrimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uplifting insights from WCbW: Dewitt has no guts and is cheap; TLR is a mercenary who wants to protect the Duncans; Mo as weak as can be; and Pujols will be gone.  All in one little post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uplifting insights from WCbW: Dewitt has no guts and is cheap; TLR is a mercenary who wants to protect the Duncans; Mo as weak as can be; and Pujols will be gone.  All in one little post.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastbirdWatcher</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/02/08/cards-minor-matters-february-8/#comment-875</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastbirdWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, Tony is simple getting out the word that he is available as GM material.  Isn&#039;t a way in hell he works for the Cards.  As I said months ago.  UConn, if private conversations between Tony and Mo/BD could be heard, there would be very little to listen to, save BS, by Tony.  He wouldn&#039;t be here this year if it wasn&#039;t for 4 mill and caring for the Duncans.  DeWitt doesn&#039;t have the balls to fire Tony outright because that would expose him completely.  They both know the score.  The question is, will this climate concerning base ball operation cost you Pujols.  I say undoubtedly.  Tony is a lawyer, he is competing right now.  His salary will be part of the wonderful saving BD is going to show you all.................................... For me personally, I could care less.  But if his replacement is as weak as Mo is as a GM, we will be making the Cubs very happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, Tony is simple getting out the word that he is available as GM material.  Isn&#8217;t a way in hell he works for the Cards.  As I said months ago.  UConn, if private conversations between Tony and Mo/BD could be heard, there would be very little to listen to, save BS, by Tony.  He wouldn&#8217;t be here this year if it wasn&#8217;t for 4 mill and caring for the Duncans.  DeWitt doesn&#8217;t have the balls to fire Tony outright because that would expose him completely.  They both know the score.  The question is, will this climate concerning base ball operation cost you Pujols.  I say undoubtedly.  Tony is a lawyer, he is competing right now.  His salary will be part of the wonderful saving BD is going to show you all&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; For me personally, I could care less.  But if his replacement is as weak as Mo is as a GM, we will be making the Cubs very happy.</p>
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		<title>By: DizzyDean17</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/02/08/cards-minor-matters-february-8/#comment-874</link>
		<dc:creator>DizzyDean17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You feel guilty? I just compared the man who was voted top sportscaster of the 20th century to Al Hrabosky. You should suspend my account on this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You feel guilty? I just compared the man who was voted top sportscaster of the 20th century to Al Hrabosky. You should suspend my account on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/02/08/cards-minor-matters-february-8/#comment-873</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DD, I feel a bit guilty as I know I could never fill up three hours times 162 games with intelligent talk. Broadcasters have a tough job. Vin has always been one of my favorites, but I imagine like La Russa and managing, he has a free pass as long as he wants the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DD, I feel a bit guilty as I know I could never fill up three hours times 162 games with intelligent talk. Broadcasters have a tough job. Vin has always been one of my favorites, but I imagine like La Russa and managing, he has a free pass as long as he wants the job.</p>
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		<title>By: DizzyDean17</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/02/08/cards-minor-matters-february-8/#comment-871</link>
		<dc:creator>DizzyDean17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi UConn,

I interpreted TLR&#039;s comments about analysis of players differently than you did. The scout vs. numbers argument is almost as old as baseball itself and will likely never go away.  A little dissent or cynicism is healthy.

For instance, D. Duncan or one of the other pitching coaches in the organization pulls a young pitcher aside and tells him he can get minor leaguers out all day long but he is going to have to improve his secondary pitches if he wants to pitch at the next level. He can continue to use his best pitch in the tight situations and put up the good numbers that excite all the numbers crunchers or he can start using his other pitches in those situations. In the short term, his numbers might suffer but, eventually, he may have another out pitch so the major league hitters will not be able to sit on the pitch that got him the outs at lower levels.

I&#039;m hoping Mitchell Boggs is one of the guys working on something Duncan may have suggested a year or two ago.

Brian, I liked your comment about woof. Shawn Estes is trying out for the Dodgers this year and Vin Scully will drive me up the wall if I have to listen to him pronounce the guy&#039;s name as S Tease all year long.

Disclaimer: Vin Scully is the greatest announcer ever in any sport and is still my favorite. At 80, he is past his prime, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi UConn,</p>
<p>I interpreted TLR&#8217;s comments about analysis of players differently than you did. The scout vs. numbers argument is almost as old as baseball itself and will likely never go away.  A little dissent or cynicism is healthy.</p>
<p>For instance, D. Duncan or one of the other pitching coaches in the organization pulls a young pitcher aside and tells him he can get minor leaguers out all day long but he is going to have to improve his secondary pitches if he wants to pitch at the next level. He can continue to use his best pitch in the tight situations and put up the good numbers that excite all the numbers crunchers or he can start using his other pitches in those situations. In the short term, his numbers might suffer but, eventually, he may have another out pitch so the major league hitters will not be able to sit on the pitch that got him the outs at lower levels.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping Mitchell Boggs is one of the guys working on something Duncan may have suggested a year or two ago.</p>
<p>Brian, I liked your comment about woof. Shawn Estes is trying out for the Dodgers this year and Vin Scully will drive me up the wall if I have to listen to him pronounce the guy&#8217;s name as S Tease all year long.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: Vin Scully is the greatest announcer ever in any sport and is still my favorite. At 80, he is past his prime, though.</p>
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		<title>By: UConn Card</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/02/08/cards-minor-matters-february-8/#comment-868</link>
		<dc:creator>UConn Card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t look at it as being &#039;politically correct&#039; as much as I do sheer hypocrisy.  His motto seems to be &#039;Don&#039;t do as I do, do as I say&#039;.

The best way to lead is by example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t look at it as being &#8216;politically correct&#8217; as much as I do sheer hypocrisy.  His motto seems to be &#8216;Don&#8217;t do as I do, do as I say&#8217;.</p>
<p>The best way to lead is by example.</p>
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		<title>By: bigchieftootiemontana</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigchieftootiemontana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>woof woof    Ha ha  Brian!!</description>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://thecardinalnationblog.com/2009/02/08/cards-minor-matters-february-8/#comment-863</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not a defense, but simply an acknowledgment that TLR is what TLR is. I don&#039;t think this old ARF dog is interested in learning any new tricks. He knows he is set in St. Louis for as long as he wants to be so apparently doesn&#039;t feel the need to be politically correct. Still, as you note, the &lt;em&gt;P-D&lt;/em&gt; does not seem to be the proper vehicle to get the points across. 

There was also sniping in the same article about how word was not relayed to La Russa and Duncan about Carp&#039;s surgery until after the fact. I find it interesting that the internal communications seem to be just as much of a problem at times as the external communications are presented. Again, I cannot think of a positive reason that such an internally-focused matter should be in the newspaper.

Another point reinforced in the article that I did not mention is that TLR says he is not going to manage anywhere else. While decisions can change, it would signal to me that he thinking about staying on. He didn&#039;t rule out other baseball jobs, but I have a feeling that he wants to pass John McGraw to become #2 in managerial wins all-time. He may also want to stay just ahead of Bobby Cox. TLR is just over 300 victories short of McGraw currently, so we are talking four more seasons including 2009, if my theory is accurate. At the end of the 2012 season, La Russa will be 68 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a defense, but simply an acknowledgment that TLR is what TLR is. I don&#8217;t think this old ARF dog is interested in learning any new tricks. He knows he is set in St. Louis for as long as he wants to be so apparently doesn&#8217;t feel the need to be politically correct. Still, as you note, the <em>P-D</em> does not seem to be the proper vehicle to get the points across. </p>
<p>There was also sniping in the same article about how word was not relayed to La Russa and Duncan about Carp&#8217;s surgery until after the fact. I find it interesting that the internal communications seem to be just as much of a problem at times as the external communications are presented. Again, I cannot think of a positive reason that such an internally-focused matter should be in the newspaper.</p>
<p>Another point reinforced in the article that I did not mention is that TLR says he is not going to manage anywhere else. While decisions can change, it would signal to me that he thinking about staying on. He didn&#8217;t rule out other baseball jobs, but I have a feeling that he wants to pass John McGraw to become #2 in managerial wins all-time. He may also want to stay just ahead of Bobby Cox. TLR is just over 300 victories short of McGraw currently, so we are talking four more seasons including 2009, if my theory is accurate. At the end of the 2012 season, La Russa will be 68 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: UConn Card</title>
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		<dc:creator>UConn Card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I wish TLR would shut up already!

He has a pattern of public comments that might get a manager with a lesser reputation fired.  His views are well known.  We don&#039;t need to hear them again, ad nauseum.

Management is taking the organization in a particular direction, right or wrong.  He should give his views to them privately so they can be weighed in the decision-making process.  But when a decision has been made with which he does not agree, he then has a choice.  He can either comply with the decision that his superiors have made or he can find a position elsewhere in which he is more comfortable.

Any player that plays under TLR knows full well that expressing their displeasure with him and his moves publicly is a good way to find themselves either benched or traded.  I find it fascinating that TLR doesn&#039;t expect the same treatment from his superiors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I wish TLR would shut up already!</p>
<p>He has a pattern of public comments that might get a manager with a lesser reputation fired.  His views are well known.  We don&#8217;t need to hear them again, ad nauseum.</p>
<p>Management is taking the organization in a particular direction, right or wrong.  He should give his views to them privately so they can be weighed in the decision-making process.  But when a decision has been made with which he does not agree, he then has a choice.  He can either comply with the decision that his superiors have made or he can find a position elsewhere in which he is more comfortable.</p>
<p>Any player that plays under TLR knows full well that expressing their displeasure with him and his moves publicly is a good way to find themselves either benched or traded.  I find it fascinating that TLR doesn&#8217;t expect the same treatment from his superiors.</p>
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